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    yoshinoharu's Avatar
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    Haru Yoshino
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    Legitimate question here:

    This point has been treaded over, steamrolled, bombed, nuked, purged with salt and fire, and shot into a black hole for good measure at this point. It's plain to see from just the first few pages that the OP's opinion is unpopular, so why are we letting the thread survive? Time would probably be better spent creating different threads encouraging the good design decisions of the devs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshinoharu View Post
    Legitimate question here:

    This point has been treaded over, steamrolled, bombed, nuked, purged with salt and fire, and shot into a black hole for good measure at this point. It's plain to see from just the first few pages that the OP's opinion is unpopular, so why are we letting the thread survive? Time would probably be better spent creating different threads encouraging the good design decisions of the devs.

    Some keep the thread up by engaging us ? I don't think the thread would survive without opposing narratives going on.
    Like, there's entertainment value in this, ngl. :P
    Admittedly though, you are absolutely right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VioletCatastrophe View Post
    If you put as much effort in to improving and trying to be better as you have put so far creating wild conspiracy theories and researching the ToS then you wouldn't be having any issues. Clearly time isn't a problem for you, because you keep spending a bunch of time and effort into belaboring this point. Why do you not put that same effort into being better? I can't imagine it is fun to be struggling this much, surely if anyone stands to benefit from putting that time in it is you. It isn't a lot. People have been offering a ton of constructive criticism and people have even made new threads to offer some fundamental advice that may help resolve things.
    Did I say anything about the trials being "too difficult"? No, I have actively defended the design decisions. I have only criticized two things:
    1) the netcode
    2) the community's attitude towards OP, which often crosses the line as you can see in this thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jdtuggey View Post
    Also, like, you're conflating the in-game ToS with the forum's ToS, they're most likely not the same.
    The FINAL FANTASY XIV User Agreement is enforced on here, in-game, and to some extent third-party sites like Twitch.

    Quote Originally Posted by yoshinoharu View Post
    why are we letting the thread survive? Time would probably be better spent creating different threads encouraging the good design decisions of the devs.
    Reddit has already raided the Dungeons forum with about 30 threads after someone posted on /r/ffxiv. People will still post in this one because they need to defend their honor against OP, who is (apparently) threatening to steal FFXIV from everyone else. People feel very insecure about "losing" FFXIV because it's so difficult to get the devs to do the right thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    Reddit has already raided the Dungeons forum with about 30 threads after someone posted on /r/ffxiv. People will still post in this one because they need to defend their honor against OP, who is (apparently) threatening to steal FFXIV from everyone else. People feel very insecure about "losing" FFXIV because it's so difficult to get the devs to do the right thing.
    Oh I agree with SE taking a while to do the right thing. It took them what, 6 years to un-lobotomize the battle content despite constant outcry and dwindling population? I can actually understand the insecurity because if it gets reverted, for many people, it would be the final nail in the coffin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshinoharu View Post
    Oh I agree with SE taking a while to do the right thing. It took them what, 6 years to un-lobotomize the battle content despite constant outcry and dwindling population? I can actually understand the insecurity because if it gets reverted, for many people, it would be the final nail in the coffin.
    Thank you for understanding why we care. :P
    After having watched the game decay in ways that I care about for about this long, it feels like square enix is making things right, to reverse this in such a short amount of time, yes, it would be.
    I have had discussion with a few discord friends right before DT came out, was something along the lines of "I feel left behind by the game, the content that used to be made for me doesn't feel like it is anymore, and everything above feels like too much of a commitment for me", I really felt stuck between two brackets of content and nothing felt made for me anymore. It does now, or at least it feels like a very big step in the right direction, and I look forward to the future now. Haven't felt excited for content outside of story in a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    The FINAL FANTASY XIV User Agreement is enforced on here, in-game, and to some extent third-party sites like Twitch.
    You haven't tackled the main point: You are not in charge of enforcing it. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    Did I say anything about the trials being "too difficult"? No, I have actively defended the design decisions. I have only criticized two things:
    1) the netcode
    2) the community's attitude towards OP, which often crosses the line as you can see in this thread



    The FINAL FANTASY XIV User Agreement is enforced on here, in-game, and to some extent third-party sites like Twitch.



    Reddit has already raided the Dungeons forum with about 30 threads after someone posted on /r/ffxiv. People will still post in this one because they need to defend their honor against OP, who is (apparently) threatening to steal FFXIV from everyone else. People feel very insecure about "losing" FFXIV because it's so difficult to get the devs to do the right thing.
    Damn right people are gonna feel insecure about it. Regular content is finally fun again and you have people like OP who can't find find the courage deep in their soul to conquer the fear of pressing a couple buttons and want to get the dev's attention so it can be reverted all back to sleep mode endwalker difficulty. I don't blame a single person for throwing it right back at OP given the history of the game. Hypercasuals have gotten catered to enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    The FINAL FANTASY XIV User Agreement is enforced on here, in-game, and to some extent third-party sites like Twitch.
    that's great and all but are you a mod? no?? then please stop pretending to be one. several posts have been removed for either breaking TOS by actual mods or from users themselves. you aren't our boss so why should we listen to you?
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    So I mentioned before how content that hard molds u into a better fighter....forums like this tells me ain and simple....you dont know how to play and refuse to learn. In dawn trail did u know you dont really need to switch gear. Ilvl660 endwalker tome melded / p10s-p12s gea will hold you. You don't need reset your gear until lvl 97 and even thats a big iffy. Did many of you know arms length doubles as a kb immunity and slow cause I seen some of you maybe in my runs not even use that. Ppl so quick to wanna dumb the game down. Do us all a favor learn your roles for god sake. If your playing healer get better, if your tanking get better, dps....keep dpsing. Allot takes on this thread for a lack of words are dog doo doo and sounds like a bunch of entitled ppl who refuse to learn to play...to the ppl trying to call these brain rots out im sorry you have to go through this. The devs made game harder, now you want game easier make up your minds jeeez I would be scared to have my life in some of your hands.....
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    You open the door theres nothing in sight. You close the door wondering whats in sight. But lets be honest its probably gonna just let you down.

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    A picture is worth a thousand words

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