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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadMaris View Post
    Most the viewers of streamers(Not just Arthars) don't even play the game, so they don't have a right to say anything anyway.
    I thought we addressed the "viewers of streamers dunking on op" conspiracy theory. Also, even if you'd find someone that doesn't play the game in the people that disagree with OP, does that dismiss the opinion of a player like me ?
    You're doing the same mistake as many here who agree with op: Using an unfair characterization/generalization to make a point. Like, maybe OP genuinely has a bad take that most disagree with. Perhaps the same with your video.
    I don't even watch Arthars, btw, besides the very occasional recommended video on youtube. I'm too old to enjoy the energy streamers need to bring to every stream to keep people engaged.
    This isn't about silencing OP, this is about saying that no, we think the dawntrail changes are fine. Even you are fine with them.
    You and OP are both trying to silence us with these mischaracterizations though. Who's really the mean person here ? There's always two sides to a coin.
    I also don't think putting forwards your credentials really adds value to your statement. They're not relevant to this discussion and your opinion is not worth more than anyone's, I'm sorry.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChadMaris View Post
    I have however a different view from the rest as a player whose cleared ultimates, savage, and extremes as they come. My own FC Officer, MoonUnit posted here and relayed this thread to me. While his opinion is don't nerf anymore dungeons. Which I do agree with. Adding "HARD" version Dawntrail dungeons and future expasion dungeons to catter to the harden players with increased rewards such as better exp, higher gil drops, and increased/special drops for doing them.
    I agree that we need something to bridge extremes and experts, like, I don't think anyone would disagree with that. Like, something between Dawntrail Experts and Extremes.
    But that has nothing at all to do with the issue at hand. The issue at hand is "this is too hard, it needs to get nerfed". No. And you agree with that. :P

    Edit: Shilling your youtube content is just mwah, chef's kiss. Now we can easily doubt your intentions, because you have an alternate incentive to post this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdtuggey View Post
    I agree that we need something to bridge extremes and experts, like, I don't think anyone would disagree with that. Like, something between Dawntrail Experts and Extremes.
    But that has nothing at all to do with the issue at hand.
    thats where normal raids should be, but they are just 8 man dungeon bosses
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    thats where normal raids should be, but they are just 8 man dungeon bosses
    super hard to disagree with this, even if I really like arcadion normal rn :P
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    By the way any of you fight Diabolos in the ARR dungeon where you have to play the memory game and match doors so you can live and not get nuked by a party wide AOE? Another fun dungeon. They won't nerf that at least because it isn't part of the progression of the MSQ thank god and I love when it pops up in random queues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonUnit View Post
    By the way any of you fight Diabolos in the ARR dungeon where you have to play the memory game and match doors so you can live and not get nuked by a party wide AOE? Another fun dungeon. They won't nerf that at least because it isn't part of the progression of the MSQ thank god and I love when it pops up in random queues.
    Also because, like every level cap dungeon, the ilvl sync is staggering so the attack just gets survived and ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdtuggey View Post
    Edit: Shilling your youtube content is just mwah, chef's kiss. Now we can easily doubt your intentions, because you have an alternate incentive to post this.
    Wow, At no point did I defend OPs stance on making normal content easier.
    Who are you, irrelevant? Acting rude as hell over me showing a visual explaining things I personally think FF14 needs to address is the only concern. I don't have monetization enabled on the video because I am not interested in doing so. Calling what I created a shill. Go back to oogling your fem character with mods in secret.

    "You and OP are both trying to silence us."
    Don't put words in my mouth when I literally just said the game is too easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdtuggey View Post
    The issue at hand is "this is too hard, it needs to get nerfed". No. And you agree with that. :P

    You obviously didn't read anything I said or posted or checked my video. I don't want things to be nerfed. I want harder version content like SE did back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadMaris View Post
    You obviously didn't read anything I said or posted or checked my video. I don't want things to be nerfed. I want harder version content like SE did back then.
    I did actually watch your video in its entirety. Disagreeable takes mixed in with takes no one will disagree with ever.
    Like, no one ever will disagree that there's a problem with the housing system (except those who benefit, ofc lol). Trying to get anything better for my FC than a small has been a struggle.
    And like, I don't think that crest placement on gear should be a priority ever. Sounds like a very niche thing.
    Just so you see that I did watch. I watched the moment after I put down my post.
    You also complain about a lot of criticism on your video. I didn't see any. Are you censoring it ? I run a youtube channel too, I know the tools you have access to. :P
    The problem I see with your initial post is painting people who disagree with OP as a streamer's little soldiers on OP's word, you're trying to discredit them.
    You even said most don't play the game lol.
    You also say I don't read. How could I have known you agree that the content shouldn't be nerfed ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jdtuggey View Post
    The issue at hand is "this is too hard, it needs to get nerfed". No. And you agree with that. :P
    Sounds like you're the one who doesn't read. x_x
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    Last edited by jdtuggey; 07-28-2024 at 04:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdtuggey View Post
    I agree that we need something to bridge extremes and experts, like, I don't think anyone would disagree with that. Like, something between Dawntrail Experts and Extremes.
    But that has nothing at all to do with the issue at hand. The issue at hand is "this is too hard, it needs to get nerfed". No. And you agree with that. :P

    That exists - It's called Normal Raids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightHour View Post
    That exists - It's called Normal Raids.
    Normal raids aren't harder than experts to most of us in their current form.
    They sure are more interesting tho. :P
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