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  1. #1171
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    jdtuggey's Avatar
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    Tsuki Hori
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    Excalibur
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TDawnstar View Post
    It's fun the first time and then it isn't on the second. It's like Alliance Raids (especially SB/SHB) - they are epic the first time and then, when you get them in Alliance Roulette, you know you are in for 45 minutes of pain and suffering
    Like, please don't make your experience representative, it isn't. >//<

    Quote Originally Posted by TDawnstar View Post
    Well, for example, I positively hate the four-/five-fold shot stuff we get in M4 (or the tetrapagos on Halone). I literally have to recite aloud "left-right-right-left-left" (in French) because otherwise, there is about 0 chance that I'll remember them and get them correctly. That is annoying as heck
    But the biggest pain is the change of phase, for example on M3, when you go from the rotating cone and black stuff back to Larian spam.
    You have solutions, but it's still not good, can only conclude that there's a lack of willingness to put in effort.
    You know how to deal with these, like, we all deal with these that way, I repeat the pattern on m4 guns in my head with each telegraph.
    Concerning M3, you know the lariat combo is coming, and you know you might have to switch, and well, even if you're stuck on the wrong side as the black circle AoE from the spin are there, you still have time to move to the other side after they resolve and before lariat combo happens. Have to look ahead a bit, prepare for what's coming.
    Also like, for tetrapagos, you only have two movements to do, simplify your job and remember these two moves instead of remembering the whole sequence.

    To me, this is "I don't want to put effort in this". You've resolved the issues already. x_x
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  2. #1172
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    Solragor's Avatar
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    Mihalo Azora
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TDawnstar View Post
    for example on M3, when you go from the rotating cone and black stuff back to Larian spam.
    You can make that one super easy for yourself, because there is no reason to move around much.

    The boss will not hit the initial cone twice - meaning it is safe for the rest of the mechanic, and you only need to move in or out a bit. if you stand at the right position, that's like one step every few seconds. great for casters.
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  3. #1173
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    jdtuggey's Avatar
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    Tsuki Hori
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solragor View Post
    You can make that one super easy for yourself, because there is no reason to move around much.

    The boss will not hit the initial cone twice - meaning it is safe for the rest of the mechanic, and you only need to move in or out a bit. if you stand at the right position, that's like one step every few seconds. great for casters.
    See I didn't even know this, I've been playing these with viper, doesn't matter much if I move.
    Clearly don't need perfect solutions, this is a way better solution and I've still been clearing np. ^^''
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  4. #1174
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    Eira Woqiso
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Solragor View Post
    You can make that one super easy for yourself, because there is no reason to move around much.

    The boss will not hit the initial cone twice - meaning it is safe for the rest of the mechanic, and you only need to move in or out a bit. if you stand at the right position, that's like one step every few seconds. great for casters.
    I've yet to see anyone catch onto this when I queue in, it makes PCT uptime soooo nice
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  5. #1175
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    Sida Bajihri
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDawnstar View Post
    But the biggest pain is the change of phase, for example on M3, when you go from the rotating cone and black stuff back to Larian spam.
    I admit that part can be a bit annoying. Not entirely because the quick mechanic succession, but because the black puddles are player location based, people panic and cover the whole area with them making it impossible to run across. But the solution in that is based on players. The black puddles could be neatly just in half of the arena if so placed. The solution for that is educate and communicate. The mechanic is fine.
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

  6. #1176
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    Alfarini Sintasmus
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDawnstar View Post
    But Nier glams are so pretty
    Then unsync glam farm them. *BIGGEST SMILY FACE*
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  7. #1177
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    Quote Originally Posted by alfarini View Post
    Then don't queue into them *BIG SMILY FACE*
    Quote Originally Posted by TDawnstar View Post
    But Nier glams are so pretty
    When you don't want to play the game, you just want to look gucci in limsa with 0 effort. ;o
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  8. #1178
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    Kisori Petrova
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdtuggey View Post
    When you don't want to play the game, you just want to look gucci in limsa with 0 effort. ;o
    There are two types of MMO players:

    People who think the gameplay is fun and the rewards are an incentive to do the things they wanted to do anyway.
    People who think getting rewards is fun and the gameplay is the cost of getting them.

    This isn't a value judgment; I'm personally in group 1, but I know plenty of bad players in group 1 and plenty of great players in group 2, and I have decades-long friendships with people on both sides of this divide.

    Still, it has a huge impact on which content you enjoy and why you enjoy it.
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  9. #1179
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    Alfarini Sintasmus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDawnstar View Post
    I literally have to recite aloud to myself "left-right-right-left-left" (in French) because otherwise, there is about 0 chance that I'll remember them and get them correctly.
    Ok and? I do this to and so do most people. Even top end raiders weather it's said out loud or in your head it's the same thing. It's you solving the problem. Memory games are a small part of the
    standard fair in 14. Seriously you had an issue with a mech and you solved it in your own way. That's just basic problem solving, your an adult right? Do you really need your hand held the whole time?
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  10. #1180
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    Tsuki Hori
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinglypockets View Post
    This isn't a value judgment
    I have nothing against any of these groups myself, to be clear, it's when the expectations/needs intersect in a bad way like this whole thread, basically, that it gets a little more tense.
    I agree with everything you've said there.
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