Difficulty of normal content.

[jdtuggey]

I wish the players could respect what the devs were trying to do, but you don't. You want it to be "your time". You all saw the smidgen of changes happening in raids and used them as a shield to do things that are very against TOS..

Like, I don't know brother, but you're vastly overstepping the reach of your knowledge into full on assumption territory.
You don't know what the devs read. Concerning the Dawntrail adjustments, Yoshi P himself said he thinks Endwalker content is too braindead.
Why are you assuming that you know better what the devs do than the devs themselves ?
You've been here since the start misrepresenting people who are against OP and trying to censor their right to express their opinion because you feel bad about OP.
Your feelings don't trump our rights to express ourselves publicly ?
It's perhaps time to ground yourself and realize that you don't know everything, and it's not your place to speak about the intentions of people who are expressing their opinions here, unless their intentions are specifically stated.
Your interpretation of vitriol =/= the definition of vitriol. By your definition, you're vitriolic too, and you've set fire to this thread many, many times so far, keeping it going, allowing the """""dogpiling""""" to continue and even inflaming it.
Sure, harsh language has been employed, like, 5% of the people who posted against OP are genuinely vitriolic, 50% are tired of FFXIV being braindead and are glad for the changes, and the other 45% is people being supportive of OP with things like "You can do it!", which OP rejects.
But for you, everyone who's against OP is vitriolic and a troll sent by Arthars. Like, how do you even know this ? Correlation =/= causation, but I won't like, hold that against you, a lot of people make that mistake.
And well, yeah, the content isn't hard, you're right, why is it wrong to tell someone they aren't right to ask the devs to make it easier ?
Maybe there's a reason why the thread made it to 100+ pages, and it's almost all people against OP. Maybe his take is actually shite, and his attitude blows this up 1000x.
If it's against ToS, report us and let an adult with no emotional bias who actually has authority pass judgement. And they have, many posts have been removed so far.

[caffe_macchiato]

somehow YOU more than everybody else knows what the devs were intending to do

You don't know what the devs read.

The below summarizes the vast majority of the posts in this thread:

Prohibited Activities in Final Fantasy XIV

Using insulting words such as "stupid," "idiot," "die," "crazy," "garbage," or "trash" to offend others. In addition, even if you do not use direct words, blaming and attacking others, such as "It's [player name]'s fault that we wiped" or "You really make a lot of mistakes," or rephrasing insulting words into any other form is also prohibited. If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

Using accusatory expressions or sarcastic remarks without offering any constructive advice. Statements such as "people like you will never get better" are prohibited. If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

Mocking another person for making mistakes. Statements such as "how can you screw up on something so simple that no one else messes up?" are prohibited. If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

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It is prohibited for groups of players to target and ridicule a specific player. If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

[VioletCatastrophe]

needless citation of the ToS

If you put as much effort in to improving and trying to be better as you have put so far creating wild conspiracy theories and researching the ToS then you wouldn't be having any issues. Clearly time isn't a problem for you, because you keep spending a bunch of time and effort into belaboring this point. Why do you not put that same effort into being better? I can't imagine it is fun to be struggling this much, surely if anyone stands to benefit from putting that time in it is you. It isn't a lot. People have been offering a ton of constructive criticism and people have even made new threads to offer some fundamental advice that may help resolve things.

At this point, it just feels like you want to be upset. I really think you need to consider taking a step back from the topic for a day or two, because you genuinely seem to be spiralling a bit. You have every right to be heard, just as we have every right to disagree, but right now, it genuinely feels like this is being unhealthy for you. I mean this in complete sincerity. I am not trying to make some kind of backhanded insult or anything like that. I can tell you are on edge, so I just wanted to make that clear.

[Revani]

If you put as much effort in to improving and trying to be better as you have put so far creating wild conspiracy theories and researching the ToS then you wouldn't be having any issues. Clearly time isn't a problem for you, because you keep spending a bunch of time and effort into belaboring this point. Why do you not put that same effort into being better? I can't imagine it is fun to be struggling this much, surely if anyone stands to benefit from putting that time in it is you. It isn't a lot. People have been offering a ton of constructive criticism and people have even made new threads to offer some fundamental advice that may help resolve things.

At this point, it just feels like you want to be upset. I really think you need to consider taking a step back from the topic for a day or two, because you genuinely seem to be spiralling a bit. You have every right to be heard, just as we have every right to disagree, but right now, it genuinely feels like this is being unhealthy for you. I mean this in complete sincerity. I am not trying to make some kind of backhanded insult or anything like that. I can tell you are on edge, so I just wanted to make that clear.

Nice try.

The content is optional in the same way the whole expansion is optional. People bought the expansion expecting to engage with the endgame. People hitting DT level cap are players who are current with the game. Suggesting players who stay current aren't interested in endgame is not realistic.

I can't prove that but I shouldn't need to. Saying "A game for everyone is a game for no one" doesn't make sense. When I say everyone I'm talking about fans of FFXIV not "everyone in the world" and that should have been obvious.

[alfarini]

Nice try.

The content is optional in the same way the whole expansion is optional. People bought the expansion expecting to engage with the endgame. People hitting DT level cap are players who are current with the game. Suggesting players who stay current aren't interested in endgame is not realistic.

I can't prove that but I shouldn't need to. Saying "A game for everyone is a game for no one" doesn't make sense. When I say everyone I'm talking about fans of FFXIV not "everyone in the world" and that should have been obvious.

I'm sure you meant to quote me and you made a mistake. lmao I'm not entertaining you with a response regardless on how silly you sound.

Edit: found your lodestone, sorry but this character isent even at max level and it looks like your in SB, either your completely new so you have no idea what your talking about or not wanting to post using your full account. i dont mean to sound like im attacking, but from what i see of your posts you have no clue how this game works. its not like WOW where getting to max level is the whole point of the game so you can do endgame stuff. its an RPG first and a MMO second.

[VioletCatastrophe]

Nice try.

The content is optional in the same way the whole expansion is optional. People bought the expansion expecting to engage with the endgame. People hitting DT level cap are players who are current with the game. Suggesting players who stay current aren't interested in endgame is not realistic.

I can't prove that but I shouldn't need to. Saying "A game for everyone is a game for no one" doesn't make sense. When I say everyone I'm talking about fans of FFXIV not "everyone in the world" and that should have been obvious.

Are you replying to the wrong person? Nothing you said has anything in relation to that quote. As if it does, you've skipped so many rhetorical steps that I'm failing to see how your points are connected. Also that post was predominantly talking about one specific person that presumably isn't you, unless you accidentally are on your alt or something.

[Oku-1]

Nice try.

The content is optional in the same way the whole expansion is optional. People bought the expansion expecting to engage with the endgame. People hitting DT level cap are players who are current with the game. Suggesting players who stay current aren't interested in endgame is not realistic.

I can't prove that but I shouldn't need to. Saying "A game for everyone is a game for no one" doesn't make sense. When I say everyone I'm talking about fans of FFXIV not "everyone in the world" and that should have been obvious.

This is just the "I paid for the expansion so I should get everything in the expansion, therefore locking glams I want behind ultimate completions is gatekeeping me out of content I paid for" discourse all over again but re-worded to be "having content that is too difficult for me personally is gatekeeping me out of content I paid for".

[Revani]

This is just the "I paid for the expansion so I should get everything in the expansion, therefore locking glams I want behind ultimate completions is gatekeeping me out of content I paid for" discourse all over again but re-worded to be "having content that is too difficult for me personally is gatekeeping me out of content I paid for".

I never said me. I stand with people who want to be able to clear default content because I think it's a non-issue for default content to be easy. I don't need it to be challenging because I've never found default content in MMO's challenging on any level. Painting casual players who want to see content as the entitled ones is easy to do but the truth is more nuanced. Wanting to see content at the endgame is not that entitled and should be expected. An MMO needs to have content for these players as well and it doesn't come at the cost of anything important.

[Volfe]

Like half the people here are casual players who can't do savage content and want to still have fun playing the game with some challenge, myself included. Casual doesn't have to be braindead easy, there's a MASSIVE gap bewteen "normal" content and anything harder in XIV. There's no midcore content players can enjoy besides some super specific cases.

[VioletCatastrophe]

I never said me. I stand with people who want to be able to clear default content because I think it's a non-issue for default content to be easy. I don't need it to be challenging because I've never found default content in MMO's challenging on any level. Painting casual players who want to see content as the entitled ones is easy to do but the truth is more nuanced. Wanting to see content at the endgame is not that entitled and should be expected. An MMO needs to have content for these players as well and it doesn't come at the cost of anything important.

In FF14, the casual content is stuff that in many cases needs to be regularly done by savage raiders, probably more than the casual players. Roulettes for tomes. ARs for upgrade tokens. Even normal raids are useful for midcore raiders who might not be able to get the tomestone very quickly and getting 7 weeks of clears for a quick weapon upgrade is very beneficial. To say nothing of the most dedicated players being the most likely to level everything and thus spend the most time in the content. It absolutely is an issue for the normal content in the game to be too easy, which it has been for years. It has driven a few people I personally know who aren't even raiders away from the game.

If normal raids are the hardest content you will ever approach in the game, why wouldn't you want them to last you for a while? If you only want the rewards, or want to see a side story sooner, and you don't want to put in the effort to pass what is not hard, just non-trivial difficulty content, how is that not entitlement? I don't yell at SE when a savage raid doesn't roll over and die for me, because I do that optional content for that experience. I don't yell at SE when ultimates take a long time to prog, because I do that optional content for that experience. I don't yell at SE when I get awful luck on the extreme mounts and also can't clear them on the first pull, because I do the content for that experience. So why would I listen to people yelling for SE to make the midcore content designed to be non-trivial fights to challenge midcore players when they are experiencing exactly what the content is meant to be? If you want to do them, improve, or accept it'll take a while to clear them. If you just want the story, and not the combat experience, watch a streamer of your choice.

Plus you already have a ton of somehow even easier content than normal raids. The non savage raiders who want something with some bite to it deserve to have content too.