Difficulty of normal content.

[jdtuggey]

Yup. Except WoW devs drew conclusions from the whole Cata launch debacle. I do not know if SE will do the same.

I don't feel like SE made a mistake here, I feel we're witnessing a kneejerk from a few individuals in a community of 26+ million players.
If anything, SE learned from their past mistakes and they're course correcting.

I think Square Enix expected that. As far as I can tell, even Yoshi P mentioned he was getting sleepy in EW content, so this direction is what the team wants and feels is best for the game.
They've been saying for a long time that they want to reintroduce tension in the gameplay. No matter what they do, there will always be people left behind.

Many mistakes were made with the launch of Cata.

[Dovaah]

I never posted here but I couldn't stop myself seeing some of the points brought up.

I disagree a lot with OP I don't know if they'll read but I'll still provide criticism.
For info,I started playing in HW and I did a few savages during Stormblood but that's about it ? I don't have the energy to put in that kind of content.

-Use and abuse of non standard telegraphs.
-Nasty mechanic overlaps, stuff you would see on extreme and harder fights.
-Mechs resolving too quickly for the mental capacity they demand to process.
-One too many "catch this!" mech (mechs that have you running around like headless chicken evading seemingly random patterns).

Since you specifically mention Honey B. Let's talk about her.

Like any other boss in the game, she first shows how a mechanic work and then do a mix up of these. Non standard telegraphs used are still the same mechanics in the end, they just have a different coat of paint: dynamo, long aoe going under her etc. Mechanics overlaps are in previous normal content too, that's why they show you the mechanics first, so you know whats coming and what mixup you can expect. The mechanics resolving "too quickly" are telegraphed by watching the boss, you need to be spacially aware.
An example of this is Shinryu: his tail on the side of the arena and it slams down after a brief show of a zone on the floor. Eden Shiva also but even more tricky cause you have to read her cast bar to know if she's going to cleave her front or the back.
That kind of mechanic has been there for a while already. The only thing that they did is add a bit more variety which I do welcome.

Lastly, one thing I can agree about is the Honey B mechanic that requires you to run around a lot but not for the same reason as you. The hearts hitbox is shady and the aoes color being almost the same don't really help make out what could be a safe spot.

I do welcome all these changes. Fights lost their appeal to me way back in Endwalker cause of fatigue but also the structure of said fights always being the same: raid wide, dynamo, spread, big obvious aoe to dodge, tank buster, rince and repeat.

What you are seeing are multiple big streamers and some smaller ones too putting a target in me, this thread and anyone sharing this opinion (plus 4chan trolls for good measure).

Also, I don't think you should blame content creators that are part of the community for people coming back at you. None of them said: "harass the OP". They gave their own opinions in a video format cause that's what they do. People being mean to you doesn't mean that you shouldn't reflect on what you said. The least you could do is acknowledge their criticism but still disagreeing with it.

Nonetheless, try the fight again and focus, it really isn't that complicated. Pressing one button and winning isn't engaging to most people, that's why they hate Crystal Tower.

[Arcal]

Dawntrail has one of the top normal contents in the game, if not top (In terms of quality), I play casually too, I did like 3-4 savage kills when they were current content (Been playing since late Stormblood, 4.4 aprox) and honestly, I get that some people don't have the time or even will sit down and fully learn a fight but we are at lvl 100 now, this kind of difficulty should be the standart now, I was really tired of just rushing through the encounters with my brain tuned off

And as some people said, failing is ok, I fell out the arena in M4, died a bunch of times to the hearts mechanic in M2 and failed even wiped in some dungeons, and it was totally fine. Nobody expects you to know the fight the first time you do it of course, but after 100 levels... You played more than enough to know the basic stuff

[SuperJoran]

literal skill issue

[Pyrrus]

Just my two cents but I am glad for the difficulty. I think the difficulty of the game needs to go up and people need to learn their roles. I have run into so many players at 90+ who don't use tank cooldowns/mits or a healer spamming Cure I and I blame SE for that primarily. Those players never had to learn their roles because the game lets them all skate by without consequence and without forcing them to learn how to get better or adjust in spicy situations. It may be normal content, but it should still be a challenge and fun to play. I have been saying for the past few years that FF is too easy with a lot of things in the normal content (primarily the last three alliance raids) and it is promoting an environment where players aren't being driven to learn to play their roles in the slightest since most mechanics can just be out-healed or semi-ignored. Nobody needs to be a pro or perfect, but I think if the game had gradually increased in difficulty appropriately, this wouldn't be as big of a complaint as it is being made right now since people would have been better prepared for it.

For context: I am not a savage raider. Have never done on-release or on-content savage. Only maybe 3-4 of on-content extremes. I click half my buttons and I have aphantasia which makes some fights with rotating mechanics/danger zones incredibly difficult for me due to the inability to visualize. So I am not coming from a place of a heavy raider, just a mid player who would like more engaging content and is enjoying M1-M4 as it is, finally feels like a step up for normal content which is much needed since I do believe there is a big gap between normal and more difficult content pre-DT.

[AurisNix]

It doesn't matter, he didn't hung me in the public plaza by parading my name and character in YT like Arthars, Xenos and others did.

Edit: Happy 100 pages!

I bother myself to watch Xenos reaction and he never called you filthy casual in fact he was probably the nicest from all of the reactions (in his own way) yet you in your absent reasoning and paranoid thoughts probably heard the word filthy casuals when there is no such a thing or such a sentiment Ive only heard that word used in a sarcastic way in this game if anything casual players and midcore players are the ones that suffered more of the absence of engaging content and they are finally eating in DT, funny cuz even in this thread casuals called you out wrong, every possible spectrum of players called you wrong, but whats even funnier is that Mr Happy was totally right as well you are just a selfish self entitled player that claims to not have a problem playing and learning the game but other players do and you rather not handle that and stay dead on the floor instead helping them out, lmao this is really something new if this thread have hundreds of pages is because you had the worst take possible in this game with the worst reasoning ever. Tbh at this point im only here for the laughs and what bad take you will have next

[Deslyxic]

I bother myself to watch Xenos reaction and he never called you filthy casual

[AurisNix]

The thumbnail you crying out for the thumbnail? Lmao have you even watched the reaction?

[jdtuggey]

...that claims to not have a problem playing and learning the game but other players do...

I might disagree with some of the terms used, but this statement from op when compared to reality is hilarious lol.
I did most of the fights twice or thrice by now, and most of the times, fights are cleared within 0 or 1 wipe -at most-, and when you do clear, there's 1 or 2 deaths during the whole fight -at most-.
Again, this shows part of the character, dude thinks only his experience is representative, since he dies a lot and can't manage content, he assumes everyone else will and can't manage the content, and then proceeds to shift his personal responsibility to this nebulous blob of "everyone dies on these raids and I fail because of that". Yes, I'm sure that's why he dies, especially considering he proceeds in a later post to say his only option is to lay on the floor and leech, thus admitting that people are capable of doing it. :P

[IGotTooMuchLove]

The thumbnail you crying out for the thumbnail? Lmao have you even watched the reaction?

I doubt they would even bother checking it and/or give the benefit of the doubt. At this point, it's best just to... ignore this whole thread.