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  1. #961
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volfe View Post
    You are either extremely dense or a dedicated troll, find more productive stuff to do.




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  2. #962
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
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    "worst reviewed" doesn't mean the expac is bad, dawntrail is still a relatively well received expac due to its gameplay being far better than endwalker. this argument of "IT'S THE WORST REVIEWED!" means nothing to what the actual argument is about, especially when most negative reviews of dawntrail are criticizing the writing & voice acting, not the difficulty. dawntrail is also the most recent expac, give it time & i bet it'll be higher than ARR & heavensward.
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  3. #963
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    Gonna assume just dense then.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slab_Rockjaw View Post
    And nearly every review states to the effect: the content is great and the difficulty increase was much needed, but we didn't like the story. So, you know, it would be reviewed far worse if OP got his way.
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  4. #964
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post




    Game's been out for less then a month, also isn't even fully "released". Remember how good Endwalker 's msq was and then how dull and boring a lot of the patch content was? (24 man story felt rushed and the raids were piss easy, the relic weapons were a joke, barely anything else to do, patch msq I liked the characters but it also felt like a rushed afterthought).
    Also legitimately, who cares if it was, if people are still playing and enjoying it.
    This wasn't even the topic of this post.
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  5. #965
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    The reviews have nothing to do with the actual battle content anyway. Any negatives mentioned have to do with the MSQ which, at the time, was all there was except for 2 EX Trials.
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  6. #966
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    Dawntrail's content difficulty is the "Course Correction" after Endwalker.

    This is the FIFTH EXPANSION. You are level 100. It's time you learned how to actually play the game.
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  7. #967
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post




    The mixed reviews is because the MSQ is kinda mid. Don't be disingenuous.
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  8. #968
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprag View Post
    "worst reviewed" doesn't mean the expac is bad, dawntrail is still a relatively well received expac due to its gameplay being far better than endwalker. this argument of "IT'S THE WORST REVIEWED!" means nothing to what the actual argument is about, especially when most negative reviews of dawntrail are criticizing the writing & voice acting, not the difficulty. dawntrail is also the most recent expac, give it time & i bet it'll be higher than ARR & heavensward.
    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    Game's been out for less then a month, also isn't even fully "released". Remember how good Endwalker 's msq was and then how dull and boring a lot of the patch content was? (24 man story felt rushed and the raids were piss easy, the relic weapons were a joke, barely anything else to do, patch msq I liked the characters but it also felt like a rushed afterthought).
    Also legitimately, who cares if it was, if people are still playing and enjoying it.
    This wasn't even the topic of this post.
    Quote Originally Posted by Conando View Post
    The reviews have nothing to do with the actual battle content anyway. Any negatives mentioned have to do with the MSQ which, at the time, was all there was except for 2 EX Trials.
    Quote Originally Posted by HemlockEvergreen View Post
    The mixed reviews is because the MSQ is kinda mid. Don't be disingenuous.
    This entire thread is just a hivemind at this point.

    I said that endgame content was the good part of Dawntrail, and that's why it's going to have trouble attracting new players. Because when they see this mess on the forums, Reddit, in-game chat, and elsewhere, do you think they'd want to deal with this? No one's going to put up with Wookie Lamat for 40 hours just to be barked at by everyone online. This attitude is why new people avoided WoW like the plague. You realize this has an actual, real-world impact, right? This makes FFXIV look bad.
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    Last edited by caffe_macchiato; 07-21-2024 at 03:58 PM.

  9. #969
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post




    What does this have to do with the difficulty of the game? Did the reviewers gave it a lower score because they couldn't do the content?
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  10. #970
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    The average game journalist probably attends the press event, plays the press build for an hour by running around the starting city, hits some dummies, then checks the forums and reddit to see what anyone thinks of anything. So what that chart basically tells you is that Tuliyollal is Yoship's worst city design yet, even worse than Gridania.
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