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    Makaria Zolfura
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    I'm just replying to this post so i don't have to dig back through these pages.

    I looked at your logs, and as far as i can tell you aren't either as bad or as casual as you represent here. You do solid damage and you don't die often, so what's the issue?

    I guess i have two guesses:
    a) you just want a more chill experince. Challenge causes you anxiety which makes you uncomfortable. If this is true, not only are there many, many games out there, but there is also tons of content that delivers this experince. Even in the case you're a solo player you can turn down difficulty in solo duties now and trusts will patiently let you learn instances with almost no pressure. What i see is you actually aren't that bad at the game, so I'd be shocked if you had real difficulty in MSQ dungeons.
    b) you've taken a posistion to argue it and you just like to argue. In this case, I'm a lawyer, i get it, it IS fun. Have you considered law school? besides the crippling debt and abusive work conditions, it might be a good fit for you.

    What i haven't liked is that you seem so firm on your posistion despite good counterargumetns or ameliorating suggestions. I don't think you have to change your posistion here, but lots of people have made some good points, they should be aknowledged.

    Ultimately the resentment i think is simple. When you play with other players, you obliged to try. Simply put, it's like having a group project and neglecting your part. We don't even expect people to be GOOD, i think the community just expects some EFFORT.

    Anyways, I think the thread has run its course. If anything, people are just hurting themselves by yelling into the void.

    Oh well, best to everyone, let's go get back to doing whatever we were doing <3
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    Noice Deeps
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    Quote Originally Posted by MakariaZofura View Post
    I'm just replying to this post so i don't have to dig back through these pages.

    I looked at your logs, and as far as i can tell you aren't either as bad or as casual as you represent here. You do solid damage and you don't die often, so what's the issue?

    I guess i have two guesses:
    a) you just want a more chill experince. Challenge causes you anxiety which makes you uncomfortable. If this is true, not only are there many, many games out there, but there is also tons of content that delivers this experince. Even in the case you're a solo player you can turn down difficulty in solo duties now and trusts will patiently let you learn instances with almost no pressure. What i see is you actually aren't that bad at the game, so I'd be shocked if you had real difficulty in MSQ dungeons.
    b) you've taken a posistion to argue it and you just like to argue. In this case, I'm a lawyer, i get it, it IS fun. Have you considered law school? besides the crippling debt and abusive work conditions, it might be a good fit for you.

    What i haven't liked is that you seem so firm on your posistion despite good counterargumetns or ameliorating suggestions. I don't think you have to change your posistion here, but lots of people have made some good points, they should be aknowledged.

    Ultimately the resentment i think is simple. When you play with other players, you obliged to try. Simply put, it's like having a group project and neglecting your part. We don't even expect people to be GOOD, i think the community just expects some EFFORT.

    Anyways, I think the thread has run its course. If anything, people are just hurting themselves by yelling into the void.

    Oh well, best to everyone, let's go get back to doing whatever we were doing <3
    Are you talking to me? It's so very confusing who's talking to who without quoting right now.
    First, what logs? I saw in Arthars video I had a couple from like Byakko ex I believe but I don't upload.
    Second, it's definitely A, I didn't came to argue and if I've been so dismissive it's because I kinda knew the kind of responses I was going to get. Even then, multiple times I started writing novel-size posts of retorts that ended deleting because what's even the point? nobody is gonna read even half of them and whatever they read they gonna interpret the way they want, like all my other posts.
    The only reason I've been active this last couple of pages is because, TBH, the discussion about mechanics was kinda funny.
    I do want to chill, before I could do it but now I can't anymore. I stopped doing extremes because it was too much hassle. And yeah, if I don't enjoy the game anymore I will stop playing, but I'd rather not reach that point.
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    Florine Chattelfort
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deslyxic View Post
    nobody is gonna read even half of them and whatever they read they gonna interpret the way they want
    After seeing your response to streamer's videos about this thread, and also just literally everyone trying to actually engage with you, I gotta say this is the biggest case of projecting that I've ever seen lmao. This thread is full of people trying to engage in discussion with you in good faith, myself included, you've just been ignoring them.
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    It's just clear we want different experinces, some of the fights you mentioned i really enjoyed. (for example I did like pre-nerf TG cid because we actually had to mechanics instead of hit a target dummy), though there have been some misses (e6s was certainly a pain, even the normal version).

    Someone in your party must have been logging, but the records show you actually aren't terrible, it's like... idk... you find figuring out new mechancis stressful and that bothers you, where as players like myself find it exciting. It's the easy content that bothers me (think Cyrcus Tower) because i can just 1-2-3 and turn my brain off. I'd much rather take a nap.

    I'm just trying to empathize better. I literally have no idea what it's like to be a person that doesn't like learning new, challanging things. Learning new stuff is probably the reason i choose to keep on living - there's just always these questions in the world.

    I think though it will be like spicy food, the more you eat, the more you want, and the higher your baseline is. If you keep playing, these things will eventually not seem hard at all.
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