Difficulty of normal content.

[caffe_macchiato]

Or maybe the majority of the general playerbase is happy that the normal content is more interesting and engaging

Yes, the majority of Final Fantasy players wanted this change and are happy for it.

Agreed, the new content itself is good. It's not as hard as you want to think that it is. I don't understand why everyone else is acting like it's such a big change, but you are. You and your acolytes are using these tiny raid changes as an excuse to lash out against one single person who has a criticism to make. There are over 900 posts in this thread now. Most of which are spewing vitriol against just one person. FFXIV is so unlike its players. I wish the players could respect what the devs were trying to do, but you don't. You want it to be "your time". You all saw the smidgen of changes happening in raids and used them as a shield to do things that are very against TOS. You all have swarmed every corner of the forums, Reddit, in-game chat, and elsewhere, just within the past week. It's incredible how quick everyone's programming changed.

That doesn't make them toxic elitists either.

Telling someone to uninstall the game is a bit too far.

I'm thankful for the OPs post. The sheer amount of push back this post has gained from multiple sides of the community surely will tell the devs all they need to know about what direction they should be taking concerning fight design.

Actually, the devs mostly read the Japanese forums, and they are complaining a lot more than we are, mainly about hitboxes and clipping. Their community is less of a hivemind and their national economy doesn't rely on YouTubers and Twitch streamers dictating what they're allowed to think.

[Oku-1]

Agreed, the new content itself is good. It's not as hard as you want to think that it is. I don't understand why everyone else is acting like it's such a big change, but you are. You and your acolytes are using these tiny raid changes as an excuse to lash out against one single person who has a criticism to make. There are over 900 posts in this thread now. Most of which are spewing vitriol against just one person. FFXIV is so unlike its players. I wish the players could respect what the devs were trying to do, but you don't. You want it to be "your time". You all saw the smidgen of changes happening in raids and used them as a shield to do things that are very against TOS. You all have swarmed every corner of the forums, Reddit, in-game chat, and elsewhere, just within the past week. It's incredible how quick everyone's programming changed.



Telling someone to uninstall the game is a bit too far.



Actually, the devs mostly read the Japanese forums, and they are complaining a lot more than we are, mainly about hitboxes and clipping. Their community is less of a hivemind and their national economy doesn't rely on YouTubers and Twitch streamers dictating what they're allowed to think.

You are by far the most toxic person I've seen in this thread at this point.

This impulsive, violent hatred you seem to have for people simply voicing their disagreement with the OP is wild. You're trying to imply "the majority of people here are spitting vitriol because they're a hivemind that follows youtubers" like do you actually hear yourself right now? Can you genuinely tell me that you honestly think that you are totally in the right and a good and pure little angel when you say nonsense like that?

Meanwhile in a previous post you're trying to bring up the "reviews" of Dawntrail which are near entirely positive except for Steam where a bunch of scathingly bigoted individuals are leaving nasty reviews calling Wuk Lamat's VA slurs and whining about "wokeness", ironically because those people actually do just go attack and harass people at the behest of a handful of culture war grifters on twitter.

Please take a breath and log off. You're not helping the OP.

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You are by far the most toxic person I've seen in this thread at this point.

Stating my opinion is not "violent". Telling someone to quit playing the game and uninstall is a violation of the TOS. You are only lashing out because you feel threatened that the developers will take away "your" content if OP is allowed to comment. Final Fantasy XIV is a video game. If the game ends up not being for you, then don't play. There are people who have gotten far too aggressive on both sides, mainly yours, because they don't want to lose "their" game.

Also, Dawntrail is the worst-reviewed FFXIV expansion on every aggregate site, for critics and for community, and is even lower than Dragonflight, FFXIV's main competitor. That's not my opinion, that's just a fact.

[Slab_Rockjaw]

Also, Dawntrail is the worst-reviewed FFXIV expansion on every aggregate site, for critics and for community, and is even lower than Dragonflight, FFXIV's main competitor. That's not my opinion, that's just a fact.

And nearly every review states to the effect: the content is great and the difficulty increase was much needed, but we didn't like the story. So, you know, it would be reviewed far worse if OP got his way.

[Volfe]

Also, Dawntrail is the worst-reviewed FFXIV expansion on every aggregate site, for critics and for community, and is even lower than Dragonflight, FFXIV's main competitor. That's not my opinion, that's just a fact.

You are either extremely dense or a dedicated troll, find more productive stuff to do.

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You are either extremely dense or a dedicated troll, find more productive stuff to do.

[Sprag]

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"worst reviewed" doesn't mean the expac is bad, dawntrail is still a relatively well received expac due to its gameplay being far better than endwalker. this argument of "IT'S THE WORST REVIEWED!" means nothing to what the actual argument is about, especially when most negative reviews of dawntrail are criticizing the writing & voice acting, not the difficulty. dawntrail is also the most recent expac, give it time & i bet it'll be higher than ARR & heavensward.

[HemlockEvergreen]

The mixed reviews is because the MSQ is kinda mid. Don't be disingenuous.

[caffe_macchiato]

"worst reviewed" doesn't mean the expac is bad, dawntrail is still a relatively well received expac due to its gameplay being far better than endwalker. this argument of "IT'S THE WORST REVIEWED!" means nothing to what the actual argument is about, especially when most negative reviews of dawntrail are criticizing the writing & voice acting, not the difficulty. dawntrail is also the most recent expac, give it time & i bet it'll be higher than ARR & heavensward.

Game's been out for less then a month, also isn't even fully "released". Remember how good Endwalker 's msq was and then how dull and boring a lot of the patch content was? (24 man story felt rushed and the raids were piss easy, the relic weapons were a joke, barely anything else to do, patch msq I liked the characters but it also felt like a rushed afterthought).
Also legitimately, who cares if it was, if people are still playing and enjoying it.
This wasn't even the topic of this post.

The reviews have nothing to do with the actual battle content anyway. Any negatives mentioned have to do with the MSQ which, at the time, was all there was except for 2 EX Trials.

The mixed reviews is because the MSQ is kinda mid. Don't be disingenuous.

This entire thread is just a hivemind at this point.

I said that endgame content was the good part of Dawntrail, and that's why it's going to have trouble attracting new players. Because when they see this mess on the forums, Reddit, in-game chat, and elsewhere, do you think they'd want to deal with this? No one's going to put up with Wookie Lamat for 40 hours just to be barked at by everyone online. This attitude is why new people avoided WoW like the plague. You realize this has an actual, real-world impact, right? This makes FFXIV look bad.

[Volgia]

What does this have to do with the difficulty of the game? Did the reviewers gave it a lower score because they couldn't do the content?