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    Quote Originally Posted by BradyWard View Post
    please tell me what normal content you consider is best normal difficulty ballance, becasue I as one of the most casual players in the game (i only really do Savage and EX's when i can unsync them) , find all normal difficulty content rather easy, i wiped only on the 1 dungeon that did a tank stack + normal stack so i needed DPS to actually not die , but we eventually learnt the mechanics and passed with time to clear
    I think in average the last 3 expansions were pretty fair in terms of difficulty outside of some outliers like the Mist Dragon, Amauroth, Tower of Zot or Final Day that were on the harder side for dungeons. Orbornne Monastery was obviously overtuned to the point the had to nerf it and the butter dragon in Lighthouse had a lot of HP too ("Your suffering is not yet over!", "no sheet, MF! we being fighting for 3 hour and you are still at 40%").
    E5N was the sprout killer, in fact the missery I felt from Valigarmarda reminded me of that fight. P2N I remember with certain disdain too. Obviously O11 with the lardboard/starboard bullshit. As for trials Golbez I found particularly difficult.
    But the thing is those are outliers in terms of difficulty, dungeons and trials you do them once and when you have bad luck in roulettes. DT is consistently harder all across the board, there is no escape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deslyxic View Post
    I think in average the last 3 expansions were pretty fair in terms of difficulty outside of some outliers like the Mist Dragon, Amauroth, Tower of Zot or Final Day that were on the harder side for dungeons. Orbornne Monastery was obviously overtuned to the point the had to nerf it and the butter dragon in Lighthouse had a lot of HP too ("Your suffering is not yet over!", "no sheet, MF! we being fighting for 3 hour and you are still at 40%").
    E5N was the sprout killer, in fact the missery I felt from Valigarmarda reminded me of that fight. P2N I remember with certain disdain too. Obviously O11 with the lardboard/starboard bullshit. As for trials Golbez I found particularly difficult.
    But the thing is those are outliers in terms of difficulty, dungeons and trials you do them once and when you have bad luck in roulettes. DT is consistently harder all across the board, there is no escape.
    Valigarmanda is done pretty much entirely for you by your trusts, though. Like I'm not being hyperbolic here, you can just ignore the entire fight and just do your damage rotation while standing wherever they stand and the trial is trivial, probably one of the easiest trials the MSQ has had in several expansions.

    If THAT is too hard for you then I'm sorry but I think the issue isn't difficulty, the issue is that you Just Don't Like Final Fantasy 14 Anymore and instead of admitting that and canceling your sub and saving yourself 15 bucks a month you're trying to blame the difficulty for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deslyxic View Post
    I think in average the last 3 expansions were pretty fair in terms of difficulty outside of some outliers like the Mist Dragon, Amauroth, Tower of Zot or Final Day that were on the harder side for dungeons. Orbornne Monastery was obviously overtuned to the point the had to nerf it and the butter dragon in Lighthouse had a lot of HP too ("Your suffering is not yet over!", "no sheet, MF! we being fighting for 3 hour and you are still at 40%").
    E5N was the sprout killer, in fact the missery I felt from Valigarmarda reminded me of that fight. P2N I remember with certain disdain too. Obviously O11 with the lardboard/starboard bullshit. As for trials Golbez I found particularly difficult.
    But the thing is those are outliers in terms of difficulty, dungeons and trials you do them once and when you have bad luck in roulettes. DT is consistently harder all across the board, there is no escape.
    It really, really sounds like you're just fundamentally against any normal content that requires paying the slightest bit of attention and that isn't completely effortless to complete blind. If learning that "larboard" means left and "starboard" means right was bullshit for you, genuinely you need to find a different game to play or just accept that the combat-focused part of this game isn't for you, and stick to crafting, island sanctuary, rp, whatever it is about the game that you actually do like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlorineC View Post
    It really, really sounds like you're just fundamentally against any normal content that requires paying the slightest bit of attention and that isn't completely effortless to complete blind. If learning that "larboard" means left and "starboard" means right was bullshit for you, genuinely you need to find a different game to play or just accept that the combat-focused part of this game isn't for you, and stick to crafting, island sanctuary, rp, whatever it is about the game that you actually do like.
    Nah, nah, nah! everybody knows that mech was stupid and anyone saying otherwise is bullsheeting. Koji-Fox was even confronted in a fan fest for it! You not only need to know the directions the word meant but the follow up was inverted which screwed with your brain, also when it was current and the fight when for longer there was a point it followed a stack marker with the lar/starboard, meaning the tank was in the stack and Omega started the mech looking at the raid which inverted the directions and then inverted the inverted directions, that broke my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deslyxic View Post
    Nah, nah, nah! everybody knows that mech was stupid and anyone saying otherwise is bullsheeting. Koji-Fox was even confronted in a fan fest for it! You not only need to know the directions the word meant but the follow up it's inverted, also when it was current and the fight when for longer there was a point it followed a stack marker with the lar/starboard, meaning the tank was in the stack and Omega started the mech looking at the raid which inverted the directions and then inverted the inverted directions, that broke my mind.
    Extremely easy mechanic to figure after you've seen it a couple times at most
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    Quote Originally Posted by holydiver1286 View Post
    Extremely easy mechanic to figure after you've seen it a couple times at most
    For you maybe, I have to agree with the first boss of Vanaspathi when he does the "what is right?/what is left?" mech. I'm like "Same, buddy. Same."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deslyxic View Post
    For you maybe, I have to agree with the first boss of Vanaspathi when he does the "what is right?/what is left?" mech. I'm like "Same, buddy. Same."
    So...what?

    Should they just never do any sort of mechanic that requires you to know the difference between left and right in normal content ever again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oku-1 View Post
    So...what?

    Should they just never do any sort of mechanic that requires you to know the difference between left and right in normal content ever again?
    I gonna be terribly honest with you, I would prefer if they don't, but I'm not asking for it because I know that's too far. I'm willing to suck it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deslyxic View Post
    Nah, nah, nah! everybody knows that mech was stupid and anyone saying otherwise is bullsheeting. Koji-Fox was even confronted in a fan fest for it! You not only need to know the directions the word meant but the follow up was inverted which screwed with your brain, also when it was current and the fight when for longer there was a point it followed a stack marker with the lar/starboard, meaning the tank was in the stack and Omega started the mech looking at the raid which inverted the directions and then inverted the inverted directions, that broke my mind.
    I remember when this discourse was going on originally. I asked my kid brother if he knew what Starboard and Larboard meant. His response: "Starboard means right I saw it on Spongebob so does that mean Larboard is left?"

    Most of the "starboard + larboard" discourse was ironic joking at the expense of people who couldn't figure out their Lefts from their Rights. Any confusion about the antiquated nautical terms was immediately ended once you wiped the first time and had a chance to realize it just meant left and right, and then wiping a second time when you had a chance to realize it meant Omega's left and right, not yours.

    The main issue was just people refusing to learn at all and instead choosing to blame the game, which is what you're doing now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deslyxic View Post
    Nah, nah, nah! everybody knows that mech was stupid and anyone saying otherwise is bullsheeting. Koji-Fox was even confronted in a fan fest for it! You not only need to know the directions the word meant but the follow up was inverted which screwed with your brain, also when it was current and the fight when for longer there was a point it followed a stack marker with the lar/starboard, meaning the tank was in the stack and Omega started the mech looking at the raid which inverted the directions and then inverted the inverted directions, that broke my mind.
    I'm not saying the naming convention wasn't stupid, I'm saying it wasn't hard. You see it once or twice and you realized "oh, when the castbar says Larboard, the boss attacks from its left. I can remember this because Larboard and Left both start with L. When it says Starboard, it attacks from its right. I can remember this because I've vaguely heard of shipping terminology in pop culture before in my life, and if not that, I can remember this because neither Starboard nor Right start with an L." There's nothing unfair or bullshit about it being "inverted" (it isn't inverted, the boss is doing the same attack, it's just facing a different direction). It added an extra thing to pay attention to, yes, but I don't see how that's a bad thing as opposed to the whole fight just being left/right cleaves, and your post really just enforces my take that you just want the fights to be 100% effortless and thoughtless. Like really, your complaint is that you had to read a word and associate it with left or right, and look at which direction the boss is facing? That's the bar for what's too much for you?
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