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    Quote Originally Posted by nirvaphreak View Post
    Easy, plenty of people don't unlock any of the other alliance raids
    Yes, but that's kinda like cutting off legs so you don't have to put on your shoes in the morning: "a tad" extreme.
    Alliance raids are amazing the first few times, but once they are used as a XP source, then the disparity between them becomes apparent.

    I think that Ivalice and Nier raids simply need a slight HP adjustment and people will complain a lot less. In fact, Aglaia & co. don't suffer from the same HP bloat.

    Quote Originally Posted by nirvaphreak View Post
    How will you ever improve if 90% of the time playing you only have 2-3 buttons and never seen any mechanics?
    That's a question you should ask YoshiP. When you are synced down in Timewalking WoW (and GW2) you still have all your buttons and can still use them.

    Quote Originally Posted by nirvaphreak View Post
    I play a game for fun, I want my full or near full kit to play. What is the point of paying a monthly sub just to be in and out in 15 minutes while feeling bored, just to afk in town.
    That is also a question you should ask YoshiP: why did he design an MMORPG in which is there so little to do in terms of character development. (and no, mounts and pets aren't that )
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    "I think that Ivalice and Nier raids simply need a slight HP adjustment and people will complain a lot less. In fact, Aglaia & co. don't suffer from the same HP bloat."

    No please no. Anything that moves some of my favorite content closer to the snorefest that is Aglia is a bad move. In most runs Mathbot doesn't even get to his spicy spin as it is, you skip mechanics in rabanastre all the time.. and in Myth of the Realm it's the same thing. All the best mechanics didn't even happen in ***launch week***. Halone's spinning towers of doom that was fun was skipped on launch day.. LAUNCH *DAY*. This is not the way. If anything, a select few bosses in the SB alliance raids need an HP buff.

    Also if Yoshi P goes back and adds savage CT that should be the one queued in roulettes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    Having said that, it's perfectly abnormal for streamers to get involved. Guys lead communities that can behave like rabid dogs (because the group effect is often an atrocious thing, let's face it). The guys should at least have the decency not to target a particular post, and frankly that would be worthy of legal penalties. This kind of thing can go a long way, and we're not in the early days of the internet where raids on communities/individuals and cyberstalking in general were ignored phenomena.
    I disagree to an extent. It's is really good that a streamer with an audience that loves this game and the direction it's taken with DT alerts them that there's a very active thread that the developers can read which is trying to revert the game back to the very easy very boring previous level of challenge. Not everyone comes here nor may they understand the influence such threads may have on the development of the game. A streamer is also not responsible for the lack of tact some of their audience may have.

    I for one am glad that more people who prefer the quality of the content in DT can come here to express their gratitude and encourage the devs to stay the course and not cave to a vocal portion of the playerbase that spent over a decade playing the same game but still can't seem to move out of a glowing orange circle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slab_Rockjaw View Post

    I disagree to an extent. It's is really good that a streamer with an audience that loves this game and the direction it's taken with DT alerts them that there's a very active thread that the developers can read which is trying to revert the game back to the very easy very boring previous level of challenge. Not everyone comes here nor may they understand the influence such threads may have on the development of the game. A streamer is also not responsible for the lack of tact some of their audience may have.

    I for one am glad that more people who prefer the quality of the content in DT can come here to express their gratitude and encourage the devs to stay the course and not cave to a vocal portion of the playerbase that spent over a decade playing the same game but still can't seem to move out of a glowing orange circle.
    The problem is that he could have made a video, without pointing the finger at a particular thread. He masked the OP's name (for legal reasons more than anything else, I imagine?); nonetheless, it can be found in two seconds. Linked to the player's virtual identity. And from then on, causing problems / raids.

    I completely disagree that a yt isn't accountable to its community. On the contrary: managing a community is one of the most essential parts of their job. Saying the opposite is like saying that a teacher isn't responsible for his or her class: if a few students get out of hand and are particularly problematic, we'll always assume that it's up to the teacher to try and calm things down a bit. At least to try. In the case of a youtuber and a streamer, it's the same thing and I'm always surprised that some people (not you: the streamers/youters in question ) think they're above that... What's more, when it comes to winning subscribers, they're suddenly very good at management!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    The problem is that he could have made a video, without pointing the finger at a particular thread. He masked the OP's name (for legal reasons more than anything else, I imagine?); nonetheless, it can be found in two seconds. Linked to the player's virtual identity. And from then on, causing problems / raids.
    Okay, look, full disclosure: I didn't watch the video and I didn't come here because of it. I came here because reddit suggested this would be a good place to provide positive feedback towards DT where the devs are watching. I love the DT content so I did so. My comment was not directed at this video but a general statement: directing people here to counter a, imo, harmful sentiment that the game should return to 15 second cast bars for single mechanics and zero-thought content. If they did, in fact, tell people to come here and call the OP a maidenless n00b or whatever that's obviously wrong. I yield that point if it's the case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mizore11 View Post
    There have been more than enough people answering the OP why his take is not good. Did u read his responses tho? He literally doesnt care at all. He thinks hes representing the "casual" players, which he doesnt. Hes part of a minority accusing people of forcing what they pref on people like him while literally doing the same. Also since Arthars made a video bout this he acts like a child. ... He never wanted to discuss with people not sharing his view, which he clearly stated already...
    It does sound, from the recent comments as highlighted here, that in fact it's the opposite. OP is being unreasonable and the youtuber simply pointed it out. There's nothing wrong with pointing at a public post on a public forum where someone is being unreasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slab_Rockjaw View Post
    It does sound, from the recent comments, that in fact it's the opposite. OP is being unreasonable and the youtuber simply pointed it out. There's nothing wrong with pointing at a public post on a public forum where someone is being unreasonable.
    Where did i say that its wrong to point it out? I literally said OP is acting like a child since Arthars reacted to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizore11 View Post
    Where did i say that its wrong to point it out? I literally said OP is acting like a child since Arthars reacted to it.
    I was not replying directly to you, but using your post as an example of the fact that the OP was being unreasonable and that pointing people here to counter his nonsense was not a bad move.
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    I... Don't care if you in particular didn't come here after you've watch the video ? It's still a professional failure for this youtuber.

    As said before : I agree with you. I like DT content. But that's not what I'm talking about, and it doesn't mean I have to be ok with a youtuber being (once again) irresponsible..
    Explain how pointing to a public post in a public forum is irresponsible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slab_Rockjaw View Post
    Explain how pointing to a public post in a public forum is irresponsible?
    The fact that it's public in no way excuses the risk involved. If I'm a teacher and I have an adult audience (because I know what I'm going to get if I talk about children), I'm asked not to humiliate one of the speakers in public - even if they ask stupid questions. If I film someone doing something stupid in the street and post it on the internet, it's still disgusting - even if they were doing it in public.

    It's the same here. You can discuss the subject completely anonymously, without pointing the finger directly at the thread. I'm going to stop the conversation there, it is, after all, out of topic. But I find it frankly nauseating that the responsibility of youtubers is never called into question with excuses as flimsy as: ‘yes, but it's public... So the person's looking for a minimum, isn't he?’ or “they're not responsible for their community” (they are, as I said above, that's one of the basics of being a youtuber).

    They've been fighting for a long time to be recognised as legitimate professionals in the world of entertainment. They've more or less succeeded, and I think that's great - now it's time to remember that any profession requires a minimum of responsibility, and that of not calling for a form of public humiliation, even if it's indirect, goes with it.

    Anyway, back to the topic.
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    That is insane logic.

    Also, it's a public forum.
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