Difficulty of normal content.

[Novarius]

IIRC OP was unhappy about the Love Me Tender bullet hell section during Honey B Live, if you’re struggling to do your rotation during this then there is another option, drop rotation and focus on dodging the AOEs, after all there’s no DPS check or enrage in M2N so you could just start attacking again once the bullet hell part is over, then they could always try to keep their rotation going during that part once they feel more confident with it… However, if they’re not willing to give it another go despite the advice offered then I don’t think there’s any helping them.

[267270]

This is the first time I've felt alive doing content in this game anytime other than the first time. Normal content has never been better.

Learn. Adapt. Use that brain I'm giving the benefit of the doubt an assuming you have.

[SerephinaBlossom]

You're level 100, have seen 6 expansions of Mechs, telegraphs and fights. Were pre warned by Yoshi-p that they are "Looking to re-add stress to the game". The second it gets a little hard its lets start a thread about it. I hope the content gets harder and they make it more enduring. Because this is what End walker lacked because they wanted to take it easy. I'd complain about the nasty orange being back and visual graphic eye strain not over i should not be greedy and respect a mechanic.
All your sounding like is you job and MSQ skipped and suddenly realized its not easy anymore. it's side content you enter at your own risk.

[AurisNix]

IIRC OP was unhappy about the Love Me Tender bullet hell section during Honey B Live, if you’re struggling to do your rotation during this then there is another option, drop rotation and focus on dodging the AOEs, after all there’s no DPS check or enrage in M2N so you could just start attacking again once the bullet hell part is over, then they could always try to keep their rotation going during that part once they feel more confident with it… However, if they’re not willing to give it another go despite the advice offered then I don’t think there’s any helping them.

Half of the replies have been ppl trying to give the OP advices and perspectives in every single way possible either in a nice way, rude, etc and by all kind of players either casuals, raiders ppl that have different limitations or disabilities, but its extremely clear that the OP refuses to learn, improve or hear anyone but themselves and only wants the content to be tailored in the most braindead possible so you could just go in and one shot it. Tbh I agreed with what ton of other ppl said if you refuse to learn (after so much time invested in the game) and gatekeep the game to evolve from the usual mechs then just stop playing the game or skip that all together. There are msq dungeons, trials and even solo instances through all the expansions that have harder mechs and if you did them at the time you should be able to do them here as well, some of the DT raids are even way easier than other raid fights from previous expansions

[D-TrainzZ]

YOSHI, DON'T LISTEN TO THIS. IF I WANT TO PLAY A BRAINDEAD GAME I'LL GO BACK TO GENSHIN.

[Novarius]

but its extremely clear that the OP refuses to learn, improve or hear anyone but themselves and only wants the content to be tailored in the most braindead possible so you could just go in and one shot it.

I guess that old adage still rings true “you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink.”

[VioletCatastrophe]

Oh wow, I decide to check back in and see comments dismissing people from new forum posters. Is it not possible at all that I hear about this stuff second hand and this was the straw that broke the camel's back? I wasn't registered before because I actually spend time playing the game instead of complaining about trivial mechanics on the forums. Though, maybe if I tried it your way I might lose against tying my shoelaces (normal) and start begging for velcro mode.

Sometimes things take a bit of time. Sometimes you need to die a few times to learn something. Use some critical thinking skills and figure out how your deaths happen and then compensate for them on the next pulls. I'm sorry for being a little bit curt here but I'm not in a good mood right now and being compared to some 4chan troll because I made my forum account yesterday was starting it anyway.

You people need to stop being entitled and learn to appreciate this game's combat system instead of complaining that the game is actually not just giving you a free win in functionally unfailable content. It's genuinely embarassing and there's a reason why this thread is getting a lot of people shutting you down. Then again, it's no surprise that the people who decided against learning and instead doubling down on the content being wrong are also choosing to not learn and are doubling down on the playerbase being wrong. This is your sign to take a deep breath and do some self reflection. You likely won't take it though, will you?

[Novarius]

I do find it interesting that the vast majority of people in this thread are content or happy with the rebalanced difficulty of DT content, yet OP says this sample size is not representative of the community at large. Even if there is a silent majority who aren’t happy with the changes the operative word is “silent” clearly many people are happy with the current status quo or there would be more of an outcry over this return to form with the current difficulty of normal/casual content. I think it’s more likely that a vocal minority is making a a mountain out of a molehill so to speak.

[JowyAtreides]

I don't think this was any more difficult than we've had in previous expansions' raids upon release to be honest.

Use and abuse of non standard telegraphs.

I'd say the vast majority of normal raids, upon release, has mechanics only really seen in that raid, this is no different.

Nasty mechanic overlaps, stuff you would see on extreme and harder fights.

Mechanics are shown one at a time and overlap, this is normal.
Extreme and harder fights don't give you this luxury and throw you right in with overlapping or even completely different mechanics

-Mechs resolving too quickly for the mental capacity they demand to process.
-One too many "catch this!" mech (mechs that have you running around like headless chicken evading seemingly random patterns).

Addressing both of these at once because the mental capacity of players will adapt once they learn the fights, if you want it easy on day 1, it will become face-rollable after 7 attempts, this is bad design.

I genuinely think people just forget what it's like to get something new to do, because it's been the best part of a year since we've had any content to speak of.

TLDR

Run it, get better gear, watch the mechanics, adapt, overcome and proceed.

[jdtuggey]

Oh wow, I decide to check back in and see comments dismissing people from new forum posters. Is it not possible at all that I hear about this stuff second hand and this was the straw that broke the camel's back? I wasn't registered before because I actually spend time playing the game instead of complaining about trivial mechanics on the forums. Though, maybe if I tried it your way I might lose against tying my shoelaces (normal) and start begging for velcro mode.

You people need to stop being entitled and learn to appreciate this game's combat system instead of complaining that the game is actually not just giving you a free win in functionally unfailable content. It's genuinely embarassing and there's a reason why this thread is getting a lot of people shutting you down.

It's only OP dismissing these comments. He needs to make assumptions about people because he knows that his argument is completely selfish, doesn't stand on its own, and he knows we can apply right back to him.
Look at this: OP's opinion doesn't count because normal raids aren't made for him anymore. It's essentially the argument he's putting forward: Everyone who disagrees with him are chuds who belong in savage and like to show their big dunger dps (or trolls). On the other hand, he folds himself in with the casual majority when he is not, and pretends to speak for us.
He needs to discredit people like us because he knows we're right, he knows we belong in the group he's trying to peg himself as and he knows we're fine with this difficulty (at least I would hope so at this point).
I've been playing for 10 years and in some ways that matter to me, I've seen the game degrade over time because of people like that. After so long of this, it's really refreshing to see them reverse the trend. The funny thing is they baaaarely reversed it, and it's enough to cause this much of a kneejerk in someone like OP while I've been silent for 4 years + on the game degrading from my perspective.

Like, there's people that have never touched a video game in their entire lives. Should we accommodate them and lower the level of the game to someone who's never played any video games because they decide to do so on a whim, and is it really reasonable to ignore the effect it might have on established players ? Sometimes it helps to take arguments to the extreme like that to see if they still hold. :P

From having hung out in video game communities for the better part of 3 decades, I know for certain that every game leaves some people behind, despite efforts to be inclusive, and of these few left behind, there's always this one dude arguing that 80% of the playerbase should be left behind so they personally don't feel excluded and refusing to understand how this is disrespectful.