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    Quote Originally Posted by LilithKha View Post
    Buddy, I think mmorpgs are not for you. They didn't suddenly make the game dark souls, there are plenty of older folks on here who completely disagree with you. You seem to be a terminally online forum complainer and I'm honestly not sure why you're still playing since you claim to hate all of the combat content on "design principles"
    Agreed, and I think this is a MAJOR turning point in Final Fantasy XIV. FFXIV was my first serious MMO and I started playing in Heavensward. But, in 2024, that is now considered to be too late to have started playing. You do not believe that MMOs are for me, even though I have been playing for almost ten years. I have been "weeded out" as an undesirable, too late and too inexperienced, despite having completed mid-core (not hardcore) content. This is the new Final Fantasy XIV and you love it, as do the many other posters from 4chan and YouTube.

    even though the fundamentals of the game have never changed.
    Why do you disagree with everyone else here? Everyone is praising the raids because they changed the design. Now you say they didn't?


    Quote Originally Posted by FlorineC View Post
    No one is saying you can't learn in level 100 content and you must already be good.
    I have been told by several people in this thread to uninstall the game because I merely defend the OP's right to post an opinion without being harassed. The only other, actual criticism I gave is that the netcode needs to be improved to accommodate the existing mechanics. Not that the mechanics should change. And if my opinion gets that reaction, and OP's milquetoast one gets 600 replies, then what is acceptable here? Because this thread contains a level of vitriol that was rarely seen before this new raid tier dropped. And people are practically celebrating that they can finally tell someone to "get gud" and "uninstall the game", because now is their time.


    Quote Originally Posted by LilithKha View Post
    yet you are whining about core fundamentals of the game's design that have NOT CHANGED in 10 years,

    And by the way, nothing about the CORE FUNDAMENTALS of these raids are difficult or even different from previous encounters.
    Why are you lying? Nearly everyone here says that these raids are different, and they like it. That's why you are here too. I am only offering a suggestion as to what the company can change in the future.

    They did not change anything about the netcode of the game, or the way telegraphs or snapshotting works.
    Correct!

    That is YOUR complaint, and everyone else is saying that it is not a problem
    Incorrect! Why do you disagree with Yoshida?

    Naoki Yoshida : In truth, more than the game engine, which is getting a little old and limiting us in terms of possibilities, the biggest challenge with FFXIV - which offline games don't have - is the technology and the exchange between servers and clients. It imposes some very specific limitations on us, and really requires us to be flexible in our development and to have the means to compensate for the kind of problems that can arise. It's been our headache, literally, for over 10 years now. We've got lots of ideas, we'd like to implement them, but how are we going to manage to do so with the limitations that exist as a result of being an MMO?

    That is what's so difficult about FFXIV. Every time you take an action in the game, the game will communicate with the server, check for cheating and come back afterwards. This creates a delay that an offline game doesn't have, since there's no need to check on the Internet. This limitation is something we've had to deal with for years, and it does limit us somewhat in what we can manage to implement in the game.
    https://www.finaland.com/?rub=site&page=news&id=6801
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    You do not believe that MMOs are for me, even though I have been playing for almost ten years. I have been "weeded out" as an undesirable, too late and too inexperienced, despite having completed mid-core (not hardcore) content.


    Why do you disagree with everyone else here? Everyone is praising the raids because they changed the design. Now you say they didn't?
    At least try to represent people's arguments correctly. I do not believe this game is for you not because you are "too late" or "too inexperienced", I believe it is not for you BECAUSE you claim to have so much experience, and yet you are whining about core fundamentals of the game's design that have NOT CHANGED in 10 years, and demanding that they change to fit your personal needs, rather than considering that, perhaps, you might be the problem. All that people are asking for is for people like you to wake up and realize that the world does not revolve around you, no one is required to make their experience worse because YOU have a problem with the way something is designed. That is unbelievably selfish and entitled. And by the way, nothing about the CORE FUNDAMENTALS of these raids are difficult or even different from previous encounters. They did not change anything about the netcode of the game, or the way telegraphs or snapshotting works. That is YOUR complaint, and everyone else is saying that it is not a problem and they are correct. Why are you lying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilithKha View Post
    At least try to represent people's arguments correctly. I do not believe this game is for you not because you are "too late" or "too inexperienced", I believe it is not for you BECAUSE you claim to have so much experience, and yet you are whining about core fundamentals of the game's design that have NOT CHANGED in 10 years, and demanding that they change to fit your personal needs, rather than considering that, perhaps, you might be the problem. All that people are asking for is for people like you to wake up and realize that the world does not revolve around you, no one is required to make their experience worse because YOU have a problem with the way something is designed. That is unbelievably selfish and entitled. And by the way, nothing about the CORE FUNDAMENTALS of these raids are difficult or even different from previous encounters. They did not change anything about the netcode of the game, or the way telegraphs or snapshotting works. That is YOUR complaint, and everyone else is saying that it is not a problem and they are correct. Why are you lying?
    That one's been making bad faith arguments all day. You'll get no where arguing that lmao. It may be fun though I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExiaKuromonji View Post
    That one's been making bad faith arguments all day. You'll get no where arguing that lmao. It may be fun though I guess.
    I appreciate the advice but I am aware lol, I just enjoy rolling around in the mud with these types. Maybe it'll convince someone else on the fence while reading though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilithKha View Post
    I appreciate the advice but I am aware lol, I just enjoy rolling around in the mud with these types. Maybe it'll convince someone else on the fence while reading though.
    Yeah I'm the same way xD
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