Difficulty of normal content.

[yoshinoharu]

I thought people were leaving because of the lack of content, not the difficulty?

Kind of a common misconception here. People were leaving because the content wasn't engaging. Endwalker had plenty of content, but none of it was interesting. The difficult things were designed just to be difficult, and everything else was designed so braindead easy that there was little point to play it other than rewards. Even then though, if you don't have to work for your rewards what the heck is the point? The direction the game was going if you actually spent any time improving at the game you had two choices: Either grind mind-numbingly easy content or spam the same 5 fights over and over again (Ultimates). Most opted for the latter, and even then TOP was a failure as it was difficult for difficulty's sake and did absolutely nothing engaging or fun. It's not even about being 'hard' it's about being interestingly challenging, which a lot of Dawntrail does. I personally hope that threads like these don't ruin it for the players that are enjoying it.

[Eastwall]

Just stay on the floor and let 7 other people do the job for you if you really hate the fight.

[LalafellDown]

6.0 did hold the biggest player count (Thanks WoW Devs for Shadowlands tho). From 6.1 to 6.5, players (both casuals and midcore/hardcore) started to leave because of the lack of ENGAGING content, even asking for Eureka back.

Yep that’s why I stopped playing. I play casually The story was boring and the content was dead easy. I skipped the extremes in 6.0. Coming back to Dawn Trails it’s even worse. The story is boring and the activities during main story are incredibly dull. Cutscene, click on 3 of those and cutscene. Talk to that guy, cutscene. I wish I skipped all of it.

The dungeon bosses in 7.0 are a bit more refreshing but the whole game is incredibly boring. There’s nothing to work for. Everything is given to you and the way to obtain things are boring.

6.0 relic weapons were the worst. No challenge at all. On top of that I noticed they nurfed the Ascian Prime boss and the moogles hard mode. Which were my 2 favorite bosses to daily.

[Volgia]

Is it new people who are saying it is too hard? I thought it was older players who've been playing for years that "can't keep up anymore?"

Could someone catch me up on what the narrative is now, I've lost track.

My favorite ones are the ones who say that they can't keep up because they got 2 kids, a sick wife, 3 jobs, are doing community service, and can't deal with learning a single encounter or even dipping their toes on Bozja cuz it's too much of a commitment for how little time they got.

[Carin-Eri]

What a mean-spirited thread this has become!

Okay, so the OP committed the cardinal sin of both saying that they find the new content difficult AND expressing the opinion that SE should review that. A demonstrably unpopular opinion that has prompted 40 pages of aggressive replies from players who don't seem able to make a point without resorting to passive-aggression and insults.

I mean, I realise that everyone who took offense at the OP for posting such an unforgivable thread is desperate to put the point across that they disagree through fear that SE might actually listen, but I think the point has been made now! Forty pages of aggression and insults, and a damn YouTube video mocking the OP, pretty much made the point. It's just getting ridiculous now!

I mean, these forums have never exactly been sunshine and daisies but when did it become this toxic?!

[Infindox]

I don't think Shinryu got nerfed. Back when SB released, a lot of people was trying to do Shinryu without getting their class gear, which helped a lot at the time of release.

(Just replying to yours because it was the newest)

Shinryu wasn't nerfed, it was because most people when they got to that fight had really bad gear on (mostly whatever they picked up from dungeons) and we didn't have the job gear back then like we do now. I remember having to make a PF for that fight just to beat Stormblood; I enjoyed the fight, but never had to do that since and kinda glad I don't.

Yep that’s why I stopped playing. I play casually The story was boring and the content was dead easy. I skipped the extremes in 6.0. Coming back to Dawn Trails it’s even worse. The story is boring and the activities during main story are incredibly dull. Cutscene, click on 3 of those and cutscene. Talk to that guy, cutscene. I wish I skipped all of it.

The dungeon bosses in 7.0 are a bit more refreshing but the whole game is incredibly boring. There’s nothing to work for. Everything is given to you and the way to obtain things are boring.

6.0 relic weapons were the worst. No challenge at all. On top of that I noticed they nurfed the Ascian Prime boss and the moogles hard mode. Which were my 2 favorite bosses to daily.

This game isn't for you then. I can find something to do literally every day I log on, and actually challenging content or at least content I need to pay attention. There's always something to work towards. Though I will agree on the 6.0 relic weapons, they were really bad. Nothing to them.

[talloran]

What a mean-spirited thread this has become!

Okay, so the OP committed the cardinal sin of both saying that they find the new content difficult AND expressing the opinion that SE should review that. A demonstrably unpopular opinion that has prompted 40 pages of aggressive replies from players who don't seem able to make a point without resorting to passive-aggression and insults.

I mean, I realise that everyone who took offense at the OP for posting such an unforgivable thread is desperate to put the point across that they disagree through fear that SE might actually listen, but I think the point has been made now! Forty pages of aggression and insults, and a damn YouTube video mocking the OP, pretty much made the point. It's just getting ridiculous now!

I mean, these forums have never exactly been sunshine and daisies but when did it become this toxic?!

Wrong. 40 pages are NOT NEARLY enough of what people like OP need to listen. The opinions of people like OP, who don't actually play the game, have made endwalker post patch the singleplayer sadfest it was. These people need to be publicly ashamed and driven out of the game. This is a mmo, not The Sims 5.

[Alyx-Greywind]

What a mean-spirited thread this has become!

Okay, so the OP committed the cardinal sin of both saying that they find the new content difficult AND expressing the opinion that SE should review that. A demonstrably unpopular opinion that has prompted 40 pages of aggressive replies from players who don't seem able to make a point without resorting to passive-aggression and insults.

I mean, I realise that everyone who took offense at the OP for posting such an unforgivable thread is desperate to put the point across that they disagree through fear that SE might actually listen, but I think the point has been made now! Forty pages of aggression and insults, and a damn YouTube video mocking the OP, pretty much made the point. It's just getting ridiculous now!

I mean, these forums have never exactly been sunshine and daisies but when did it become this toxic?!

These replies are all over the Forums, I've been trying to offer up counter points but there are so many replies that have just spiralled out of control. At this point I wouldn't be sad if the whole post got locked due to excessive flaming, trolling and rudeness.

[Infindox]

What a mean-spirited thread this has become!

Okay, so the OP committed the cardinal sin of both saying that they find the new content difficult AND expressing the opinion that SE should review that. A demonstrably unpopular opinion that has prompted 40 pages of aggressive replies from players who don't seem able to make a point without resorting to passive-aggression and insults.

I mean, I realise that everyone who took offense at the OP for posting such an unforgivable thread is desperate to put the point across that they disagree through fear that SE might actually listen, but I think the point has been made now! Forty pages of aggression and insults, and a damn YouTube video mocking the OP, pretty much made the point. It's just getting ridiculous now!

I mean, these forums have never exactly been sunshine and daisies but when did it become this toxic?!

Because people are actually getting what they wanted (harder content) and there's always going to be someone of the people who play this game as a dress up simulator and want everything handed to them to make everything easier, instead of actually trying to learn the mechanics. (There's something to be said of checking said mechanics so that disabled people have a chance, but that's a different topic).

[Carin-Eri]

Wrong. 40 pages are NOT NEARLY enough of what people like OP need to listen. The opinions of people like OP, who don't actually play the game, have made endwalker post patch the singleplayer sadfest it was. These people need to be publicly ashamed and driven out of the game. This is a mmo, not The Sims 5.

If you say so.

I say that the online equivalent of trying to run them out of town for having an opinion contrary to yours is an unhealthy mindset.

Because people are actually getting what they wanted (harder content) and there's always going to be someone of the people who play this game as a dress up simulator and want everything handed to them to make everything easier, instead of actually trying to learn the mechanics. (There's something to be said of checking said mechanics so that disabled people have a chance, but that's a different topic).

Yeah - I get that, and I don't disagree. I simply take issue with how mean spirited this thread has become. There are far too few replies that offer constructive criticism and far too many that pretty much approach this whole thing as if it's a attack on them personally.