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    See, the unique thing about "video" games is that the video is supposed to be important. So when you press a button, it shows up on the screen. But the "new" style of video games (pioneered by Dark Souls, mastered by FFXIV) is where your actions do not correspond with the video. And the key to beating the game is to do exactly what you shouldn't do. So in these new raids, you move in the "bad" zone when it's still bad but a second before not being bad. And if you can't do it? Get gud! 100 levels! The old masters of video games (1970s-2010s) couldn't handle the sheer power of "shapshotting". Only a company as rich and prestigious--excuse me, a small indie company--can come up with this ingenious system.[/QUOTE]

    Hi, first of all, no - older people could do snapshotting just fine.

    Snapshotting is inherent in every online game because of the latency between the servers and you, so there is some inevitible communication time due to the simple fact that information takes time to travel. In games with high budgets and fast gameplay (think LoL or Overwatch) they can somehow reduce latency down quite a bit to something around 30ms, but even 30ms is too long in games like those.

    Now when it was built into mechanics, Genshin Impact and older games such as Neverwinter, Blade and Soul, and probably more had i-frames built in, where if you dodged the mechanic within a certain window you just wouldn't get hit. FFXIV didn't use this mechanic.

    Back in Wildstar we had a player who literally just dodged and played better because his home was near the servers and would have 10ms latency. It was literally a different game to him.

    now what FFXIV did is the have an inbuilt server latency of somewhere around 100ms, so there is a bit of a delay on everything, which leads to a good amount of the snapshotting issue. I also find this really frustrating when i get hit and killed by telegraphs i simply was not in. IMO it's the most frustrating part of playing FFXIV when you wipe a ten minute fight at minute 9 because of some snapshotting BS.

    That said, it's probably something deep in the code from 1.0 that they can't easily remove or change, so we gotta live with it or quit.

    Thankfully, it rarely happens outside of extreme or savage or ultimate, but i somewhat agree with you on this side point, but also I don't think this is what the thread is about.

    I'm also qutie sure it's why almost no mechanics in FFXIV are truly fast. You have PLENTY of time to dodge everything if you notice early enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MakariaZofura View Post
    That said, it's probably something deep in the code from 1.0 that they can't easily remove or change, so we gotta live with it or quit.

    Thankfully, it rarely happens outside of extreme or savage or ultimate, but i somewhat agree with you on this side point, but also I don't think this is what the thread is about.

    I'm also qutie sure it's why almost no mechanics in FFXIV are truly fast. You have PLENTY of time to dodge everything if you notice early enough.
    Snapshotting does happen outside of extreme and savages.
    I just wanted to add that ping does not effect much in FFXIV as long as you have a stable ping that does not go up or down too much when you're playing. I play on high ping since I play in the NA server but I'm not even in NA, but I do fine when I dodge the mechanics. It's just whether or not you're used to the timing that's all.
    I have better ping advantage in the JP servers, but because I'm not used to the low ping I actually sometimes run into the mechs too fast and get hit even though I'm really familiar with the fight (for example time difference mechs).
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    Last edited by DKMR; 07-18-2024 at 01:42 PM.

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    I have a friend who plays from Bangkok on the NA server, and she's consistently pink logs on everything... wow! I'm amazed.
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