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    pizzapizzapizza's Avatar
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    Supremedesu Pizza
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    Brynhildr
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    People think they can just instapull and bring half the party in when they're still trying to acclimate to the arena and expect it to not be a rough time. Let your party members have some breathing room at the beginning, set a timer to start if no one else does. You'd be amazed how much better you are at the game when you have breathing room to pay attention or when you don't have the weakness debuff 5 seconds into the pull because you took the first auto.

    To start, Expert roulette is called just that, expert. Why shouldn't post-MSQ dungeons be remotely difficult?
    Did I get annoyed at cactus boss the first time he pulled that surprise expansion aoe? A bit. Then I learned and got to watch others in DF fall for it, and then learn as well, and we got to bond over thinking he was a rude SOB. Rely on your party members if you're having difficulty, follow them if you're having difficulty. You're not by yourself.
    I started playing during late shadowbringers for the Nier raids, and even as a new player I found most content to be exceedingly easy, but because it was so easy, I got overwhelmed in savage because there was a significant jump in difficulty, and I felt bad dying repeatedly and wiping us when other content was so easy.
    It felt like there was a ceiling for me in shadowbringers because normal raids were SO easy and then I got into savage and got flamed for not standing in spot xyz with perfect cadence.

    But this expac? It's actually fun. Frenetic at times, but it's really not that difficult. Most mechanics can be easily avoided by taking a "pay attention to surroundings first" approach.
    Afraid of bee lady? Don't hug close to her. Watch. You'll learn that her hearts have a very specific pattern. The other mechanics do too. Take some time, cooperate with other party members and talk with them.
    The mechanics may be spooky and fast for some, but they're not that punishing. I see people running around with 3-5 vuln stacks on the regular as first timers and living. Previous stuff? You get that high, the next mechanic is killing you-full stop.

    The raids are clearly supposed to be a pipeline for harder content. Savage hasn't released, but I already feel so much more prepared than previous tiers. Last expac the first fights were so boring in normal that I legitimately was falling asleep(and once did with ericthonios) waiting for mechanics to happen, then I hit savage and the groups I was with were so unprepared for the difficulty spike that half the parties disbanded after a couple pulls.

    People forget that last expac, there was a lot of stuff that would just instawipe you anyone managed to fail. This time around you get a harder mechanic, and everyone who fails gets a vuln stack, for the most part. If anything it's more forgiving and gives you better feedback if you messed up.

    Normal raids should prepare you for savage, and this tier does just that.
    Frankly, M4 could stand to be more difficult and bridge better to savage.
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    Makaria Zolfura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 100
    On this point, that one dungeon boss with dolls is pretty annoying at times. I think we'll get used to it, but not yet.

    The main issue is i get nauseos on the teacups. I love roller coasters and can handle extreme rides, but the teacups make me sick.
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    Sandra Odari
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by pizzapizzapizza View Post
    People think they can just instapull and bring half the party in when they're still trying to acclimate to the arena and expect it to not be a rough time.
    Funny enough my runs on the first day was basically blind pulling from the queue. I think at most I had 2 wipes on a single boss. Honey B was a 1 shot, it's stupid easy. I have done M4 about a dozen times farming the cat, finally got it, and every run is basically a 1 shot. I don't understand how people can complain about this basic level of content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizon132 View Post
    Funny enough my runs on the first day was basically blind pulling from the queue. I think at most I had 2 wipes on a single boss. Honey B was a 1 shot, it's stupid easy. I have done M4 about a dozen times farming the cat, finally got it, and every run is basically a 1 shot. I don't understand how people can complain about this basic level of content.
    I did my first runs of the content the morning of as well.
    The difference between that and when I joined a friend for theirs later in the day was stark. And a lot of it came down to people being willing to stop, take a moment, and communicate both before the fight and during.
    I don't think of myself as all that good at the game at all - I'm not. I can just press buttons and avoid 90% of the mechanics. It was the other people playing. People in the parties trusted and helped eachother.
    Meanwhile when I queued with my friend that night, I had some dude tell me to go fuck myself for starting a timer and putting a >:| in chat when he decided to insta pull and gatt himself from the boss. That fight took over 10 pulls - something like almost 40 minutes. And guess which person died and complained the most.
    Every fight I did in the morning while clearing and then getting my armor, with people completely fresh, took at most 2 pulls, and almost all of them were 1shots. When we did wipe it was some laughs and pointers or questions on how the mechanic worked for those who weren't sure. Just taking a moment to breathe helps so much in ways people don't realize.
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    Last edited by pizzapizzapizza; 07-18-2024 at 03:51 PM.