Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
As much as you wish to believe it hostility in this game is not entirely from WOW refugees nor is expecting a level of competence to complete a normal raid at level 100 toxic elitism
Agreed! It's not JUST from WoW, because we have our own home-grown elitists who love the gated nature of our game. They've been playing for 10 years and can't fathom new players in their game in 2024.

Quote Originally Posted by Khutulun View Post
Imo, playing FF14 sequentially should be the expectation for new players. Don't feel like it's a matter of toxicity towards new players, ARR is where FF14's tutorials are. Even during low points of difficulty, the quantity and complexity of mechanics has increased with expansion count. FF14's storytelling follows the same structure as well, with the world/characters/lore building from start to finish. A new player jumping into the deep end of a MMO story and game spanning over a decade... is senseless at minimum?
Agreed as well. The MMO genre is stagnant and FFXIV isn't a good steward of the genre. When we require players to trudge through 400 hours of MSQ and demand they master the game before reaching current content, the player base will be bottlenecked. A new MMO will finally be allowed to become popular, or WoW will improve itself. FFXIV needs competition and your attitude is necessary for that to happen.

Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
You are so out of touch with the reason people quit WoW to play FFXIV. The only reason WoW lost it crown is cause the dev just got so out of touch with the playerbase for SEVERAL years.
Great point! Our new raids aren't that difficult nor are they impossible for new players. But the player base (you all) want them to be. You desperately want something that the devs aren't quite giving you. You are far more hostile to new players than Square Enix is, and the same has been happening with your previous MMO for years. You are deviating from what the devs want, and you are causing expectations to differ.

This thread would've been far better if people just argued that the raids aren't that difficult and just have telegraphs that look different. Instead, you just couldn't resist pulling the old "get gud" card, even when it doesn't apply here. This is the new face of FFXIV. Sad!