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  1. #21
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    RedDeathXR's Avatar
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    Ryoko Kaida
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    Balmung
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow_Darkmoon View Post
    That's where you're wrong, everyone keeps saying this, and It is the Opposite! I don't want them to change it to make it easier, I want everyone to have what they want, I just want an OPTION for people like me not forced on you, but everyone else who don't want it easier don't even want to give us who struggle an OPTION. <3
    I don't run optional content I only run MSQ
    If you don't run optional content and only MSQ, then the game is already catering to you just fine. You have trusts. This game is an MMO. Not a single player RPG. It is your duty to manage expectations in that regard and nobody is going to judge you if you just prefer to do MSQ and stick around to socialize. However, they are not going to design trusts around raids. This completely removes the whole point of the game being an MMO and will just make queues longer.
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  2. #22
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    TenebrisCandidus's Avatar
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    Lucille Aemilia
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    Cerberus
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Gonna be direct, and you won't like it, but you need to hear it - it's not hard, you're just not good enough. Is that harsh? Yes, but the normal raids still have nothing on savages or ultimates and once you're familiar with the mechanics will be very straightforward. The combat designers are finally getting to be adventurous and try new things that haven't existed before and in return we get threads like these where you're upset because it's too difficult.

    If you really dislike that things feel "difficult", come back later with more gear and try them then. I promise you that more people will be grateful for the difficulty than not and very happy with this direction.
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  3. #23
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    Sacae's Avatar
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    Holo Wisewolf
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    Cerberus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    If you've been playing since Stormblood, Shinryu, Tsukoyomi, and the Warrior of Light were all as tough, if not harder, than these raids, and yet you seemed to get past those just fine.

    If you're anxiety is so bad that you can't handle getting stuck in a video game, read a book or something. I don't have sympathy anymore. People have offered solutions, have offered to help, have offered to literally post videos of how to do the content, and it's not enough, never enough.

    Imagine this conversation in literally any other game. "I demand racing games be slower because I get motion sickness when I move too fast on screen." "We need to dumb down competitive fighting games, I have arthritis and can't comfortably hold a controller."

    It's not just "asking for an easy mode." You're asking to double the workload to accomodate a minority in a way that makes the game so boring that the developers themselves complain about falling asleep playing it. It is detrimental to the game, and the community.
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  4. #24
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    Shadow_Darkmoon's Avatar
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    Luna Goddess
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    Marilith
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    Arcanist Lv 6
    Quote Originally Posted by RedDeathXR View Post
    If you don't run optional content and only MSQ, then the game is already catering to you just fine. You have trusts. This game is an MMO. Not a single player RPG. It is your duty to manage expectations in that regard and nobody is going to judge you if you just prefer to do MSQ and stick around to socialize. However, they are not going to design trusts around raids. This completely removes the whole point of the game being an MMO and will just make queues longer.
    I think i realize where i went wrong, I thought this was a thread on the MSQ dungeons, I didn't realize it was about Raids, My apologies
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    Regret putting anything in the forums, should have known it wouldn't go well so plz forget i was ever here
    Thank you to those who were nice, should have known 95% would not be.
    We should all strive to be like Shenlao. Have Compassion for your fellow player, stop being a jerk! You can like content someone else is having issues with and not be an a$$hat about it

  5. #25
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    noelregnard's Avatar
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    Noel Regnard
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    Sargatanas
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow_Darkmoon View Post
    I don't run with players, I have Anxiety, and My heart races, and My hands shake so much so that It's sometimes hard to even keep them on the keys, I don't want to burden others so i run with trusts, and Put off Trials for months
    Ok I have social anxiety disorder as well so I understand that. And I know it's hard to shake the mentality that you would become a burden to other people if you fail. I was like that when I started playing the game, I would watch a video before every single duty to make sure I know the fight well enough. I still feel like that sometimes. I've completed multiple ultimates but I still cannot bring myself to join a PF party even for extreme trials due to anxiety. But I can assure you almost nobody would care much if you die in a dungeon. I was in a PT that wiped 6 times to the final boss of the lv 95 dungeon because the healer couldn't do the mechanics properly and that was not a fight carriable by a tank. I ended up giving advise to the healer and we got through it and all was good.

    If you still can't get over your feeling, which is perfectly understandable I know it's not easy, you can ask for help from your friends, your fc-mates. Hell you can even add me in game and I would help you get through it. If that's still too much then I honestly don't know what else can be done. Like you say, sooner or later you'll run into content you cannot run with trusts, and you won't have a choice.
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  6. #26
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    Sacae's Avatar
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    Holo Wisewolf
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    Cerberus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Sorry, but that's a really crappy attitude to bring here. None of those were fights where players could get by just by hitting buttons in more or less the correct order (though the first fight came close, which is why I said I felt it could use a little something more).

    Players have natural skill caps regardless of all those things you contemptuously list. That natural skill gets lowered when they are suffering from one of those conditions.

    Trying to downplay your performance is pointless when the logs aren't representative of the entire player base and normal is supposed to be for the entire player base.
    "Downplaying my performance?" You didn't even look at my logs. I suggest looking. You'll notice that, for nearly every expansion, there's nothing there. I don't do savage, and only rarely dip into extremes. I *am* a casual player.

    The second raid fight literally has no mechanics that aren't "stand out of the bad." There aren't even that many overlapping mechanics. There's no enrage; one healer can salvage the entire run, as long as there's a tank to do their job, and the tanks can survive just fine.

    Raid 3 is the toughest, imo, but the same applies, as long as a healer and tank live, you can make a comeback. And all the attacks are telegraphed, you'll die once or twice, but if you actually pay attention, you'll see what killed you. And if you don't get it, JUST ASK YOUR PARTY.

    Raid 4 is perfect, great fight, no arguments there.

    If your "natural skill cap" prevents you from ever, EVER getting better...then maybe it's time to just accept that some content isn't for you. WHICH IS FINE. But don't take away from the rest of us. You all had your easy expansion with Endwalker, and it bored the rest of us to tears. Dear God, I regularly tank EW dungeons and just ignore mechanics because I can get 9 vuln stacks and survive.

    When the content is that easy for so long, there's no incentive to get better. These arguments you all are making now? Go look up some of the threads on Stormblood launch. We were told by your like that Shinryu would kill the game because "casuals couldn't clear an extreme-level fight." Guess what? Shinryu was never directly nerfed. And people cleared it. They got better. The same thing happened with Tsukoyomi, Nidhogg, Warrior of Light. And NONE of these were ever nerfed directly. They were outgeared later.

    Which is something else people have been advising. If you can't clear on content, as in, it's just beyond your "natural skill level," wait a patch or two, and do it with better gear.

    It's that simple.
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  7. #27
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    Lasciare's Avatar
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    Eien Rose
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100

    Fear of failure

    A lot of players need to stop being so afraid to fail in this game. Learn and do better.
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  8. #28
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    Rostythgar Onasch
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Bee girl can get pretty nuts with the hearts flying everywhere, but I promise you that you and most people will be able to get through it if you focus on your movement. There is no enrage so don't stress.
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  9. #29
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    Ryoko Kaida
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    Viper Lv 100
    We finally got good difficulty content after players have bugged for it back for years. Now we're moving back to Square one. You'll never win.
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  10. #30
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    Volfian De'lobo
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    Hyperion
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Game being so easy for so long led to people being terrified of failure. I got my ass kicked a few times and had an amazing time, that's part of learning.
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