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  1. #1161
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDawnstar View Post
    I had one death in the 4 raids this week (after dying "quite a bit" more on week one XD).
    That doesn't change the fact they are annoying to play.
    But you cleared it and with less deaths, nice job! That's the whole point to this thread we were trying to convey on this thread. And yet you say it's annoying? What's the mental gymnastics here? You achieved clears with one death total this week and made a huge improvement since last week. It's a win your treating as a loss somehow. I don't get what it takes to appease you people. Contents fun and engaging, and feels good to play it.
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  2. #1162
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    Quote Originally Posted by alfarini View Post
    But you cleared it and with less deaths, nice job! That's the whole point to this thread we were trying to convey on this thread. And yet you say it's annoying? What's the mental gymnastics here? You achieved clears with one death total this week and made a huge improvement since last week. It's a win your treating as a loss somehow. I don't get what it takes to appease you people. Contents fun and engaging, and feels good to play it.
    You've never come across an encounter or mechanic that was unpleasant even though it wasn't hard?

    It's not at all how I feel about the new raid bosses, but it's how I feel about most of the "visual puzzle" mechanics in the game.

    I hate the second boss of Strayborough even though it's a lot easier than the first.
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    Last edited by Jinglypockets; 07-25-2024 at 03:45 AM.

  3. #1163
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solsbeary View Post
    So its now week four of the dungeons and week two of the raid.

    Focusing on the raid, i can categorically say that week two is easier.

    Week one deaths: M1 - 9, M2 - 4, M3 - 1, M4 - 6
    Week two deaths so far: M1 - 1, M3 - 0 (yet to do M2/4)

    This is because the fight is easier because I have now experienced it more.

    Stop being an overdramatic reactionary and actually experience things. Or actually contextualise it better by stating its your initial thoughts, rather than a blanket view that things are too difficult.

    Unfamiliar =/= more difficult!
    And no one's even geared up yet. Just wait until everyone is 90 item levels higher.
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  4. #1164
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    Tomana Dawnstar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mictla View Post
    You say annoying I say extremely fun and creative.
    It's fun the first time and then it isn't on the second. It's like Alliance Raids (especially SB/SHB) - they are epic the first time and then, when you get them in Alliance Roulette, you know you are in for 45 minutes of pain and suffering
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  5. #1165
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDawnstar View Post
    It's fun the first time and then it isn't on the second. It's like Alliance Raids (especially SB/SHB) - they are epic the first time and then, when you get them in Alliance Roulette, you know you are in for 45 minutes of pain and suffering
    No way, when I get SB raids I'm excited! I wish I'd get them WAY more than I currently do. Less so for the ShB ones, but I didn't like them on launch anyways. Not for them being difficult or anything, I just found them boring - if I wanted Nier Automata I'd just replay Nier Automata
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  6. #1166
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorSpoils View Post
    And no one's even geared up yet. Just wait until everyone is 90 item levels higher.
    While your argument is correct, by the time we get 90 more ilvls, the first 4 raids will become a lot less relevant. Unless, of course, they pop in the relic quest line somehow
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  7. #1167
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    Quote Originally Posted by alfarini View Post
    But you cleared it and with less deaths, nice job! That's the whole point to this thread we were trying to convey on this thread. And yet you say it's annoying? What's the mental gymnastics here?
    Well, for example, I positively hate the four-/five-fold shot stuff we get in M4 (or the tetrapagos on Halone). I literally have to recite aloud to myself "left-right-right-left-left" (in French) because otherwise, there is about 0 chance that I'll remember them and get them correctly. That is annoying as heck
    But the biggest pain is the change of phase, for example on M3, when you go from the rotating cone and black stuff back to Larian spam.
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    Last edited by TDawnstar; 07-25-2024 at 04:55 AM. Reason: word

  8. #1168
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDawnstar View Post
    It's fun the first time and then it isn't on the second. It's like Alliance Raids (especially SB/SHB) - they are epic the first time and then, when you get them in Alliance Roulette, you know you are in for 45 minutes of pain and suffering
    Then don't queue into them *BIG SMILY FACE*
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  9. #1169
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    Quote Originally Posted by alfarini View Post
    Then don't queue into them *BIG SMILY FACE*
    But Nier glams are so pretty
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  10. #1170
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    Tsuki Hori
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDawnstar View Post
    It's fun the first time and then it isn't on the second. It's like Alliance Raids (especially SB/SHB) - they are epic the first time and then, when you get them in Alliance Roulette, you know you are in for 45 minutes of pain and suffering
    Like, please don't make your experience representative, it isn't. >//<

    Quote Originally Posted by TDawnstar View Post
    Well, for example, I positively hate the four-/five-fold shot stuff we get in M4 (or the tetrapagos on Halone). I literally have to recite aloud "left-right-right-left-left" (in French) because otherwise, there is about 0 chance that I'll remember them and get them correctly. That is annoying as heck
    But the biggest pain is the change of phase, for example on M3, when you go from the rotating cone and black stuff back to Larian spam.
    You have solutions, but it's still not good, can only conclude that there's a lack of willingness to put in effort.
    You know how to deal with these, like, we all deal with these that way, I repeat the pattern on m4 guns in my head with each telegraph.
    Concerning M3, you know the lariat combo is coming, and you know you might have to switch, and well, even if you're stuck on the wrong side as the black circle AoE from the spin are there, you still have time to move to the other side after they resolve and before lariat combo happens. Have to look ahead a bit, prepare for what's coming.
    Also like, for tetrapagos, you only have two movements to do, simplify your job and remember these two moves instead of remembering the whole sequence.

    To me, this is "I don't want to put effort in this". You've resolved the issues already. x_x
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