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  1. #961
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    Sprag Vellis
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
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    "worst reviewed" doesn't mean the expac is bad, dawntrail is still a relatively well received expac due to its gameplay being far better than endwalker. this argument of "IT'S THE WORST REVIEWED!" means nothing to what the actual argument is about, especially when most negative reviews of dawntrail are criticizing the writing & voice acting, not the difficulty. dawntrail is also the most recent expac, give it time & i bet it'll be higher than ARR & heavensward.
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  2. #962
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    Gonna assume just dense then.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slab_Rockjaw View Post
    And nearly every review states to the effect: the content is great and the difficulty increase was much needed, but we didn't like the story. So, you know, it would be reviewed far worse if OP got his way.
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  3. #963
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post




    Game's been out for less then a month, also isn't even fully "released". Remember how good Endwalker 's msq was and then how dull and boring a lot of the patch content was? (24 man story felt rushed and the raids were piss easy, the relic weapons were a joke, barely anything else to do, patch msq I liked the characters but it also felt like a rushed afterthought).
    Also legitimately, who cares if it was, if people are still playing and enjoying it.
    This wasn't even the topic of this post.
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  4. #964
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    Rostythgar Onasch
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    The reviews have nothing to do with the actual battle content anyway. Any negatives mentioned have to do with the MSQ which, at the time, was all there was except for 2 EX Trials.
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  5. #965
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    Dawntrail's content difficulty is the "Course Correction" after Endwalker.

    This is the FIFTH EXPANSION. You are level 100. It's time you learned how to actually play the game.
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  6. #966
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post




    The mixed reviews is because the MSQ is kinda mid. Don't be disingenuous.
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  7. #967
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprag View Post
    "worst reviewed" doesn't mean the expac is bad, dawntrail is still a relatively well received expac due to its gameplay being far better than endwalker. this argument of "IT'S THE WORST REVIEWED!" means nothing to what the actual argument is about, especially when most negative reviews of dawntrail are criticizing the writing & voice acting, not the difficulty. dawntrail is also the most recent expac, give it time & i bet it'll be higher than ARR & heavensward.
    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    Game's been out for less then a month, also isn't even fully "released". Remember how good Endwalker 's msq was and then how dull and boring a lot of the patch content was? (24 man story felt rushed and the raids were piss easy, the relic weapons were a joke, barely anything else to do, patch msq I liked the characters but it also felt like a rushed afterthought).
    Also legitimately, who cares if it was, if people are still playing and enjoying it.
    This wasn't even the topic of this post.
    Quote Originally Posted by Conando View Post
    The reviews have nothing to do with the actual battle content anyway. Any negatives mentioned have to do with the MSQ which, at the time, was all there was except for 2 EX Trials.
    Quote Originally Posted by HemlockEvergreen View Post
    The mixed reviews is because the MSQ is kinda mid. Don't be disingenuous.
    This entire thread is just a hivemind at this point.

    I said that endgame content was the good part of Dawntrail, and that's why it's going to have trouble attracting new players. Because when they see this mess on the forums, Reddit, in-game chat, and elsewhere, do you think they'd want to deal with this? No one's going to put up with Wookie Lamat for 40 hours just to be barked at by everyone online. This attitude is why new people avoided WoW like the plague. You realize this has an actual, real-world impact, right? This makes FFXIV look bad.
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    Last edited by caffe_macchiato; 07-21-2024 at 03:58 PM.

  8. #968
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post




    What does this have to do with the difficulty of the game? Did the reviewers gave it a lower score because they couldn't do the content?
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  9. #969
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    The average game journalist probably attends the press event, plays the press build for an hour by running around the starting city, hits some dummies, then checks the forums and reddit to see what anyone thinks of anything. So what that chart basically tells you is that Tuliyollal is Yoship's worst city design yet, even worse than Gridania.
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  10. #970
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Please for the love of GOD stop complaining about the content being too hard. This is MAX LEVEL CONTENT where you are expected to AT LEAST know how to play your character. For the LOVE OF GOD how inept can people really be?!?!?

    It's so sickening and tiring to hear grown adults (and possibly children) who do nothing but cry over a game that IS NOT EVEN DIFFICULT. I'm going to have to go out on a limb here and say that the people here probably complain about everything in real life being too hard too and never want to have to work for anything. Even if it's normal and is designed to be easier than the savage content, it should NOT be made so easy that you can legitimately go afk to clear it.

    The normals are DESIGNED to introduce you to the overall mechanics of a fight. Those same core mechanics also give you some insight into the higher difficulties and are what ACTUALLY make them unique instead of just rolling your face on your keyboard every damn time. If you're someone really that bad at the game then I'm sorry, please go play minecraft/stardew valley/animal crossing.

    Imagine having to use your brain.. VERY MINIMALLY to complete something and then crying when the one braincell you have can't comprehend "The boss seems to be charging a laser, guess I'll just stand here and do nothing". Video games as a whole are now suffering in quality these days because of over homogenization and dumbing down so the average low IQ mcdonalds worker can get their free glamour to then go to some weirdo nightclub full of furries to ERP all night while getting drunk.

    Has it never occurred to anyone that maybe even the people who like to raid but don't want to do hardcore content, like the lessened difficulty of normal raids? I still think that fights like Midgardsormr in SB was one of the best tuned normal raids we've ever had as it had mechanics that you needed to pay attention to (minimally) to complete.

    Anyway... grow up and stop crying like a child about everything in your life that offers up the smallest bit of resistance. So damn entitled.
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