Difficulty of normal content.

[ElysiumDragon]

Haven't done Arcadion as of yet, but the difficulty's been a refreshing change from Endwalker.

That being said though, I do think there needs to be an acknowledgement that people can find some mechanics trivially easy, and yet also find other mechanics almost impossible to understand, even in the same encounter. For example, I can't do E7N Portals to save my life, but throw me a Flood Ray or Dominion, and I'll be comfy.

Also, it takes failure to get better as a player, and that's always been the fundamental truth. Every Hardcore Raider will tell you that they've wiped tens of thousands of times, and even caused their own fair share of those wipes.

[PopiPipapo]

get good

[Nixas]

At the beginning I found the mechanics in the dungeons/raids and trials more than just random. It was as if they were slapped onto the boss without thinking about it and left untouched.

I hardly died because you understand the mechanics relatively quickly if you take a closer look at them.
You start the game at level 1 and run through countless dungeons/raids and trials up to 100, so that you almost fall asleep in the HIGH LEVEL CONTANT, as the mechanics are repeated throughout and sometimes look visually different.

I know! There are also players who still find it difficult, they can always seek help in the chat or group finder. There are enough other players who are happy to help if someone needs help, but don't call the content at MAXIMUM level (100!!!) “it's too hard” “I can't run around headless without dying” “crying noises”, because that's exactly what breaks the game. In Endwalker I was more than just frustrated because the content got easier and easier. FF14 is meant to get harder as you level up. That's how games are! If you want to play mindlessly, install Candy Crush.

[Profanegaming]

Junk like this is how you end up with easy content that people get bored doing in days time. The game is TEN YEARS OLD! If people need to be coddled, they should play the easier content; stick to gathering or something. Complaints like this stifle creativity and ingenuity. I can only pray the devs understand that you are a fraction of the player base and ignore things like this.

[MuraBoy]

"Surpass your limits. Right Here. Right Now."

You're better than that and i know you can improve.
Ask players for help understanding a fight or mechanic. Look for video guides after taking a beating, study a little about your job/role. If you are K.O on the floor, pay attention to the mechs and what the players are doing while you wait for raise, etc.

[Alyx-Greywind]

I've been responding here and there and while I do not agree with a lot of the comments from the OP I've also come to realise that so many of you are needlessly toxic, nasty and uncaring. This whole thread should be locked because it's become a series of unhinged elitist commentary, backhanded comments to the OP and sheer rudeness to anyone suggesting actual feedback on difficulty.

I feel like I've been sent back 15 years to old message boards, shouldn't really be surprised. At this point this thread is a lost cause.

[VioletCatastrophe]

I've been responding here and there and while I do not agree with a lot of the comments from the OP I've also come to realise that so many of you are needlessly toxic, nasty and uncaring.

I really don't see it. I do see a lot of people being blunt when it comes to shutting down unsubstantiated and patently false claims. But if people are going to make up stuff, or overly exaggerate things to try to prove their point, then I don't see any point humoring such a bad faith (or in the best case scenario, knowingly false) arguments. Nobody is being elitist, but there are certainly people who are tired of having the elitism line thrown at them to shut down their stance that uh... wiping is okay, content shouldn't be trivial, content should get harder over time as players learn more and get more experienced, and that content has been long due to get harder after two expansions of largely trivial level cap content.

And also so what if like, a handful of people actually are being toxic. I sure haven't seen any (other than the toxic takes coming from those who agree with OP), but even if they did exist it wouldn't change the fact that OP is just straight up wrong for demanding this. I don't want to have my ability to not get bored to death in casual content be held hostage by a vocal minority of people who are extremely adamant that learning from mistakes is impossible. Even the devs admitted to falling asleep in their level cap content in Endwalker. There's a reason that despite the huge critical acclaim of Endwalker's MSQ the expansion has a reputation for being mediocre and lacklustre in terms of its content.

The content has been such a huge step forward in Dawntrail. I hope everyone who is struggling now can rise to the occasion, can grow, improve, and feel the satisfaction of doing so. It would be an absolute shame if SE were to back pedal and take that opportunity away from us and make the game more like the tedium of EW just to please the whiny vocal minority. And if that makes me toxic to say it then sure, I'm toxic. I don't care.

[Deslyxic]

I've been responding here and there and while I do not agree with a lot of the comments from the OP I've also come to realise that so many of you are needlessly toxic, nasty and uncaring. This whole thread should be locked because it's become a series of unhinged elitist commentary, backhanded comments to the OP and sheer rudeness to anyone suggesting actual feedback on difficulty.

I feel like I've been sent back 15 years to old message boards, shouldn't really be surprised. At this point this thread is a lost cause.

I wouldn't worry about it. From the time of his tweet when Arthars streamed this thread it must have been between by pages 5-8, and then tweeted about it, and then uploaded the clip to youtube, and then twitted again. And another creator uploaded a video of not this thread but the one about dungeons specifically. And then this was linked in 4chan.
The grand majority of the people on the last 50+ pages were agitated by a streamer or are just trolls. Just look at the staggering number of Jul 2024 - 1 post comments.

[Novarius]

Well I for one have been following this thread with great curiosity even before Arthars drew more attention to it OP, I’ve also seen that several people have tried to engage you in a constructive discussion but you have been pretty dismissive of what they have to say or needlessly rude in some your replies. All I’ll say is if you make claims about normal content being too difficult you should be fully prepared to defend your opinion and back up your claims with actual facts, otherwise you’re obviously going to look pretty foolish…

[Deslyxic]

Well I for one have been following this thread with great curiosity even before Arthars drew more attention to it OP, I’ve also seen that several people have tried to engage you in a constructive discussion but you have been pretty dismissive of what they have to say or needlessly rude in some your replies. All I’ll say is if you make claims about normal content being too difficult you should be fully prepared to defend your opinion and back up your claims with actual facts, otherwise you’re obviously going to look pretty foolish…

Well, I went kinda unhinged with my griefing roulettes post but I stand by everything I wrote. And yes, I am very much dismissing, but can you provide examples of me being rude?