Difficulty of normal content.

[Mister_Snakebite]

To everybody moaning about the difficulty here, how the heck did you get past Zodiark or Hydaelyn? Or, if you started when Stormblood came out, Shinryu? Or Tsukuyomi? Or the last battle with Elidibus? Those fights weren't easy. They threw a lot at you, because at that point you were a long way into the game and the developers at that point expect you to know what you're doing, or at the very least know enough to be able to survive. New stuff or combined mechanics shouldn't be enough to make your head spin.

[AmiRose]

Can't make this shit up lmao.

[sakuraaoyagi]

I heavily disagree here. Normal content has been way too easy lately and its gotten people too comfortable with just queing randomly and not care about learning the fight or even their rotation for that matter and just follow what everyone else does. This tier makes you pay attention. Makes you think. I found myself falling asleep in dungeons when i finished endwalker because i was so bored of just speeding through them. The content is not THAT hard... its just hardER than what youre used to. Begging the devs to please not reverse this and make it easy again because god i do not want to fall asleep during dungeons anymore. I am super pumped for savage and the rest of the raid tiers. Just learn the game. If you die alot THATS FINE nobodys gonna make fun of you for learning. We wiped at least twice to each raid boss (5 times to the second one hehe) and ive never had so much fun in a raid before. Its SUPPOSED to be a challenge. Youre SUPPOSED to think its hard at first. Raids are SUPPOSED to be HARD (thats why its end-game content and also OPTIONAL). But if you give up then youre just hurting yourself and then others by coming on here and complaining that its too hard. A lot of us like the challenge. The game should not be made easier just because a handful of people gave up on the first try. Sorry if that all sounds harsh but its seriously not that bad. This is a good change and i hope the devs listen and see that and continue to challenge us in the future. We are level 100. Baby time is over.

[Ellona_Andrivari]

The two post MSQ 4 man dungeons are the best 4 man content in the game at current by a wide margin and I look forward to this savage tier even more so after seeing those raids.

[Deslyxic]

This comment in Arthars's video raises a great point.

@Tyrbris
4 hours ago
I like the direction DT has taken with normal mode content, but I dread getting stuck in roulettes with these people that will just give up or never learn.

See, people is dismissing this issue thinking they are not affected are wrong. You are in the same boat with people like me whether you like it or not.

And I already made the decision of not even trying M3 or M4, but the alternative, the malicious compliance way, would be to just to go to the raids and just stand there doing some semblance of a rotation, zero effort of doing mechanics, and when I die and get raised I do it again. "Sorry guys, I'm still learning the fight. Tee hee! ^_^" (might even turn off skip of watched cutscenes to sell the illusion). And when the healers get tired or expending MP on my sorry butt, I just gonna lie down in the floor, watching something on the other monitor. But I will sure fit and perky for the moment of rolling the loot. Or maybe I'll just finish whatever I was watching before I roll, that would be fun for M4 that I'm pretty sure must have a minion.

But you see I already decided that I gonna protest (and yes, I think deserves to be protested) by just not doing it (already said it in the OP) and not go with the second option because a) I'm not an as$hole, and b) as I said I don't believe the people in this forum represent the community at large and I would be griefing the wrong people.


On a completely unrelated note, I love all the people saying that criterion weren't played because of the rewards, Xeno already covered that on a video. You all love so much the challenge for the sake of a challenge that you kick the content under the rug the second it doesn't reward you with something to showoff how much of a Big Boy Gamer you are!
If that's is the rule, let me tell that undyable gear and some ts are not reward enough for the difficulty of these normal raids.

[talloran]

This comment in Arthars's video raises a great point.

See, people is dismissing this issue thinking they are not affected are wrong. You are in the same boat with people like me whether you like it or not.

And I already made the decision of not even trying M3 or M4, but the alternative, the malicious compliance way, would be to just to go to the raids and just stand there doing some semblance of a rotation, zero effort of doing mechanics, and when I die and get raised I do it again. "Sorry guys, I'm still learning the fight. Tee hee! ^_^" (might even turn off skip of watched cutscenes to sell the illusion). And when the healers get tired or expending MP on my sorry butt, I just gonna lie down in the floor, watching something on the other monitor. But I will sure fit and perky for the moment of rolling the loot. Or maybe I'll just finish whatever I was watching before I roll, that would be fun for M4 that I'm pretty sure must have a minion.

But you see I already decided that I gonna protest (and yes, I think deserves to be protested) by just not doing it (already said it in the OP) and not go with the second option because a) I'm not an as$hole, and b) as I said I don't believe the people in this forum represent the community at large and I would be griefing the wrong people.


On a completely unrelated note, I love all the people saying that criterion weren't played because of the rewards, Xeno already covered that on a video. You all love so much the challenge for the sake of a challenge that you kick the content under the rug the second it doesn't reward you with something to showoff how much of a Big Boy Gamer you are!
If that's is the rule, let me tell that undyable gear and some ts are not reward enough for the difficulty of these normal raids.

get good or get gone, the game is not being tailored to your wishes anymore.

[ArielTimeshrine]

Uh? Yeah????? I like cool mounts and gear???? I think the majority of raiders do aswell. Like you gotta be trolling now, there's no why you think people are just gonna put up with a whole raid tier just to get NOTHING right? Weapons, Mounts, Titles, Orchestrion Rolls it doesn't matter. People like being rewarded for their hard work. Do you seriously think people would do TOP, DSR or any other hard content if they didn't get a damn thing? God your arguments are just pathetic.

If that's your case then surely we should lock mounts behind Ultimates so there is a good enough "reward" for me too because I actually do Ults? Also, I don't believe this was what the person you're replying to was trying to address, they were more being rightfully dismissive of OP for proclaiming that they're willing to break ToS for their own satisfaction, at the cost of other players.

Also just attaching on the side that maybe the reason that some of these accounts are new (I know mine is) is because I've spent since 4.5 not caring enough about OF brainrot to actually post here and now that we're no longer catering to babies I want the game to stay that way? Maybe more than 1 person does?

[ExiaKuromonji]

Uh? Yeah????? I like cool mounts and gear???? I think the majority of raiders do aswell. Like you gotta be trolling now, there's no why you think people are just gonna put up with a whole raid tier just to get NOTHING right? Weapons, Mounts, Titles, Orchestrion Rolls it doesn't matter. People like being rewarded for their hard work. Do you seriously think people would do TOP, DSR or any other hard content if they didn't get a damn thing? God your arguments are just pathetic.

I'm not really sure if you just quoted the wrong person or what. But I don't see how this is a response to the quote you put in the message.