Difficulty of normal content.

[Sqwall]

The difficulty isn't the issue I see anymore. At this point....it's skill. The fights are NOT designed to be cheap or punishing. They are designed to teach you. I cleared them all within maybe 2 hours. Only one that gave me trouble was M3 as it took me a while to know max melee and snap shots.

Normal difficulty....yeah feels normal to me. Savage on the other hand....I'm honestly excited for savage this expac. Endwalker felt fair in savage difficulty. Not cheap....fair.

If you think something is cheap....consider this. Others probably learn from those mistakes and get better at the game.

This is your opportunity.

[Sol_Seppy]

P8S would beg to differ.....

And P10S....

Those fights were tuned to the max....

Damn near ultimates.

LMAO no...

[Sqwall]

LMAO no...

LMAO yes...

[Sol_Seppy]

LMAO yes...

for p8s before patch fix? maybe, almost definitely yes.
for p8s after and especially p10?! no lol

[Theswweet]

That's a crazy thing to say, considering P8S was the roadblock for progging TOP, which is unequivocally the hardest content in the game.

[MakariaZofura]

P8S would beg to differ.....

And P10S....

Those fights were tuned to the max....

Damn near ultimates.

I don't think p10s was that bad, but p8s1 was super tight on that DPS check. Definately took a lot of effort. Let alone the BS snake memes

[EponaTBHSMH]

I feel you, you have a vocal minority(?) to blame for this situation, it's the people that somehow don't play savage but complained over and over that normal content is too easy, and now here we are.

I think I saw somewhere someone dubbing that group the "hardcore casuals"

[Aniya_Estlihn]

I feel you, you have a vocal minority(?) to blame for this situation, it's the people that somehow don't play savage but complained over and over that normal content is too easy, and now here we are

Not at all a vocal minority and being this dismissive of genuine complaints people have had for over half a decade is so painfully disingenuous that I don't even know where to begin.
All that has happened with content in Dawntrail is that it is designed with the expectation that people will know basic underlying game mechanics that veteran players have been more exposed to.

It's a wake-up call to actually learn the underlying mechanics of the combat system, rather than coasting on by like people have for years. Yet all everyone does is complain about incredibly easy mechanics that would be easily resolvable if they actually bothered to ever learn what a snapshot is, or weren't allergic to stepping into the animation of an AoE, because they fail to understand that the animation and VFX are safe so long as the marker is gone as you've resolved the mechanic.

What we are witnessing is not "Hardcore casuals" changing the game, but rather a gross, widespread lack of basic, formerly common game logic and knowledge that was bred into the player base from how utterly lackluster content was in late Stormblood, and the whole of both Shadowbringers and Endwalker. Learn how to actually play the game you all claim to love and to accept that you have to learn a fight to clear it.

Alexander 12 took me ten attempts day one because back then people actually had to learn content to clear, and you know what? That was considered casual content back then by everyone who did it.
Nothing has changed other than the average casual's expectations of what they will have to do to clear content and get their dopamine rush, its time to get good at the game again and quite complaining.

All this time and energy spent moaning on the forums could be put into going into duties, learning mechanics, how the battle system actually works and getting better enough at the game to not be a burden to everyone around you. Slapping labels on people doesn't benefit anyone and only fans the flames of discourse and dissent.

[ExiaKuromonji]

I feel you, you have a vocal minority(?) to blame for this situation, it's the people that somehow don't play savage but complained over and over that normal content is too easy, and now here we are.

Source needed... Pandaemonium normal was far easier than Eden and some Omega bosses on normal. As far as I can tell from doing this tier twice already I'd say it's somewhere in between.

[bunnymansv]

False I don't play Savage content and I find the dungeons to be just fine. You are level 100 now. How long do you expect the game to hold your hand in everything you do? the "Vocal minority" is not a minority at all. You are just calling them that in an attempt to elevate yourself