Difficulty of normal content.

[Jinglypockets]

Reading this, along with the rest of this thread, comforts me in the idea that this game does need tiers of difficulty, PSO2 style, where harder difficulties give better rewards.
That way people that are enjoying the route that DT is taking difficulty wise can also enjoy previous expac dungeons while players that enjoy a more relaxed style of play where they don't wanna think too much can also enjoy.

Non standard double wall to wall pull would be good too, changing the pacing of the dungeon to not always being 2 sets of mobs then boss would be refreshing

I find it completely impossible to enjoy lower-level content because syncing down mangles my character by taking away all of my abilities. I have a hard time seeing this as a viable option.

Then again, it seems likely that people struggling with current content would probably cope better with their character getting broken in half better than I do.

[Dovaah]

I did say I wasn't sure. Standing by what you wrote doesn't mean you're right though. :P
Edit: I found the problem you're experiencing! You're running a full set of 660 gear in content meant for 685+ gear! :P
At ilvl 663 on my viper, I have over 15% hp less than at 700, not to mention all the defensive stats you're missing out on.
In that context, yeah, everything would seem overpowered to me.
I do not think you get synced up either ?
Compared my stats on my 693 summoner, and yeah, about a 10-15% increase in all stats too.
Do you need information on how to gear up at 100 ? (who am I kidding lol)
About at the midway point of an expansion (~95-96) is the point where I notice my optimized gear from the previous XP doesn't do it anymore.
Rofl, really hard to believe such a huge drama train started for such a silly reason.
Edit2: Did you even step into arcadion ? lol, you shouldn't be able to with ilvl 660. I'm doubting that you even tried at this point.

Let me add a little something: what are these melds lmao

[Deslyxic]

I did say I wasn't sure. Standing by what you wrote doesn't mean you're right though. :P
Edit: I found the problem you're experiencing! You're running a full set of 660 gear in content meant for 685+ gear! :P
At ilvl 663 on my viper, I have over 15% hp less than at 700, not to mention all the defensive stats you're missing out on.
In that context, yeah, everything would seem overpowered to me.
I do not think you get synced up either ?
Compared my stats on my 693 summoner, and yeah, about a 10-15% increase in all stats too.
Do you need information on how to gear up at 100 ? (who am I kidding lol)
About at the midway point of an expansion (~95-96) is the point where I notice my optimized gear from the previous XP doesn't do it anymore.
Rofl, really hard to believe such a huge drama train started for such a silly reason.
Edit2: Did you even step into arcadion ? lol, you shouldn't be able to with ilvl 660. I'm doubting that you even tried at this point.

Have you considered that this isn't my main?

[jdtuggey]

Have you considered that this isn't my main?

So you pay for boosts and server transfers on a throwaway alt that you logged on in-game regularly during the past two weeks (your glamours changed, and you were on jenova prior, we can see that in Arthars' video) that you hide behind on the forums to speak your mind ? I don't know man. Sure sounds like a lot of effort for an alt ? Not criticizing for buying stuff, just not what I would expect.
That profile sure fits the behavior you exhibit here also.
It's a reaaaaally convenient thing to say in the situation you're in. Or maybe that's just me.
Let's not talk about the like... dubiousness of hiding behind an alt to post a statement like you did.
Either way, it's a pretty poor outlook.

[alfarini]

And you would be wrong. Haven't even returned the quest for doing M2. I stand by what I wrote.

This is a little sad to be honest, can't even try to finish the tier. Sorry but you don't get to judge a book by only doing half of it, many have basically already said it in here but your opinion is entirely invalid. I thought maybe M3 was your downfall but you haven't even done it at all. SE ain't going to listen to someone who won't even do their content. SuperMegaExtraTurboExpealadociousCasual you are. Please refrain from complaining about something you can't even be bothered to finish.

You didn't post this little fact at first because then you'd be laughed at even more than now and you knew that lmao. No commitments from you at all, entirely misinformed and mad for no reason. People dogging on you is entirely justified. Please go play a lil baby game or a pay to win seeing as that's all you can manage to do.

Edit: actually? Not a little sad. This is big sad, super mega ultra sad.

[ChadMaris]

-Use and abuse of non standard telegraphs.
-Nasty mechanic overlaps, stuff you would see on extreme and harder fights.
-Mechs resolving too quickly for the mental capacity they demand to process.
-One too many "catch this!" mechs

Hi, I am the FC Leader of Dreams of Light, One of the larger FC's in Cactuar the streamer server. I understand your view of the dungeons being too hard. While I share SOMEWHAT of a view on this, dropping a subscription or stopping support doesn't make the game better or worse. While ago I posted a video suggesting 20 things to make Dawntrail better and I have been playing since 2.5 across a couple different accounts myself. While SquareEnix did address a few the 20 things I think they need to address, They didn't do all of them and I don't expect them to do so. Addressing concerns like people buying ultimate clears and ingame housing via RMT all the way to more simple concerns such as this. They can only address problems they deem more important. No one expects them to expand on the grand company ranks or add new FC Buffs or anything like that. Even my own video making 20 suggestions was very much disliked and considered a troll which it wasn't Allowing streamers to get the best of your opinion like Arthar for example (Who in retrospect shouldn't be making fun of players struggling.) so ignoring his opinion and standing your own is 100% respectful. Most the viewers of streamers(Not just Arthars) don't even play the game, so they don't have a right to say anything anyway.

I have however a different view from the rest as a player whose cleared ultimates, savage, and extremes as they come. My own FC Officer, MoonUnit posted here and relayed this thread to me. While his opinion is don't nerf anymore dungeons. Which I do agree with. Adding "HARD" version Dawntrail dungeons and future expasion dungeons to catter to the harden players with increased rewards such as better exp, higher gil drops, and increased/special drops for doing them.

[ChadMaris]

-Use and abuse of non standard telegraphs.
-Nasty mechanic overlaps, stuff you would see on extreme and harder fights.
-Mechs resolving too quickly for the mental capacity they demand to process.
-One too many "catch this!" mechs

I understand that many have struggled to do Skydeep which has mechanics from Titan Savage (E4S) with knockbacks being the main issue. I think that dungeon was fine. A bit difficult sure, but acceptable. After the announced "Healer Strike" because of Streamer Xenos doing the first Dawntrail dungeon without a healer. (Which in retrospect isn't hard to begin with imo, I did skydeep solo as a PLD.) everyone I frimly believed over-reacted in the idea that healers have nothing to do and as a result I believe last minute YoshiP and the devs decided to make the healing harder. I'm happy they did that as well.

Nerfing current normal and trial content in my truest opinion as a player since 2.5 is completely unacceptable. This games only issue is the lack of clarity at times and the standards we put on it. IE Expectation VS Reality. I have more pressing complains than the video I an going to link. Such as current gap closer changes no longer doing damage to classes like BLM, NIN, and DRG feeling a bit strange since the release of Dawntrail. The viewers of the streamers that don't play need to calm down a bit, play and understand why this post and others here are a thing in the first place to come to a solution. I believe their should be a normal and hard mode of dungoens like they did back then. Let the casuals have their MSQ dungeons tipped with slight difficulty to get them used to harder content in the future. Otherwise, Having all the top percentile players complain online for harder or leading to mockery and parse bashing would only make the game more like WoW in toxicity.

20 THINGS TO MAKE DAWNTRAIL BETTER VIDEO
https://youtu.be/2ju7eIGMAVE

[jdtuggey]

Most the viewers of streamers(Not just Arthars) don't even play the game, so they don't have a right to say anything anyway.

I thought we addressed the "viewers of streamers dunking on op" conspiracy theory. Also, even if you'd find someone that doesn't play the game in the people that disagree with OP, does that dismiss the opinion of a player like me ?
You're doing the same mistake as many here who agree with op: Using an unfair characterization/generalization to make a point. Like, maybe OP genuinely has a bad take that most disagree with. Perhaps the same with your video.
I don't even watch Arthars, btw, besides the very occasional recommended video on youtube. I'm too old to enjoy the energy streamers need to bring to every stream to keep people engaged.
This isn't about silencing OP, this is about saying that no, we think the dawntrail changes are fine. Even you are fine with them.
You and OP are both trying to silence us with these mischaracterizations though. Who's really the mean person here ? There's always two sides to a coin.
I also don't think putting forwards your credentials really adds value to your statement. They're not relevant to this discussion and your opinion is not worth more than anyone's, I'm sorry.

I have however a different view from the rest as a player whose cleared ultimates, savage, and extremes as they come. My own FC Officer, MoonUnit posted here and relayed this thread to me. While his opinion is don't nerf anymore dungeons. Which I do agree with. Adding "HARD" version Dawntrail dungeons and future expasion dungeons to catter to the harden players with increased rewards such as better exp, higher gil drops, and increased/special drops for doing them.

I agree that we need something to bridge extremes and experts, like, I don't think anyone would disagree with that. Like, something between Dawntrail Experts and Extremes.
But that has nothing at all to do with the issue at hand. The issue at hand is "this is too hard, it needs to get nerfed". No. And you agree with that. :P

Edit: Shilling your youtube content is just mwah, chef's kiss. Now we can easily doubt your intentions, because you have an alternate incentive to post this.

[Arohk]

I agree that we need something to bridge extremes and experts, like, I don't think anyone would disagree with that. Like, something between Dawntrail Experts and Extremes.
But that has nothing at all to do with the issue at hand.

thats where normal raids should be, but they are just 8 man dungeon bosses

[jdtuggey]

thats where normal raids should be, but they are just 8 man dungeon bosses

super hard to disagree with this, even if I really like arcadion normal rn :P