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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadMaris View Post
    You obviously didn't read anything I said or posted or checked my video. I don't want things to be nerfed. I want harder version content like SE did back then.
    I did actually watch your video in its entirety. Disagreeable takes mixed in with takes no one will disagree with ever.
    Like, no one ever will disagree that there's a problem with the housing system (except those who benefit, ofc lol). Trying to get anything better for my FC than a small has been a struggle.
    And like, I don't think that crest placement on gear should be a priority ever. Sounds like a very niche thing.
    Just so you see that I did watch. I watched the moment after I put down my post.
    You also complain about a lot of criticism on your video. I didn't see any. Are you censoring it ? I run a youtube channel too, I know the tools you have access to. :P
    The problem I see with your initial post is painting people who disagree with OP as a streamer's little soldiers on OP's word, you're trying to discredit them.
    You even said most don't play the game lol.
    You also say I don't read. How could I have known you agree that the content shouldn't be nerfed ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jdtuggey View Post
    The issue at hand is "this is too hard, it needs to get nerfed". No. And you agree with that. :P
    Sounds like you're the one who doesn't read. x_x
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    Last edited by jdtuggey; 07-28-2024 at 04:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdtuggey View Post
    I agree that we need something to bridge extremes and experts, like, I don't think anyone would disagree with that. Like, something between Dawntrail Experts and Extremes.
    But that has nothing at all to do with the issue at hand. The issue at hand is "this is too hard, it needs to get nerfed". No. And you agree with that. :P

    That exists - It's called Normal Raids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightHour View Post
    That exists - It's called Normal Raids.
    Normal raids aren't harder than experts to most of us in their current form.
    They sure are more interesting tho. :P
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    I hate to be back on this again but this content was not super hard at all and everything is telegraphed via boss gestures or boss cast bars. If one side of the boss is glowing you better get away from that side.

    Alright examples:
    Blue glowy circle on the ground - get close but not on top because something will hit there and knockback
    Half of the boss glows or gets steamy - that half of that boss is now becoming the dangerzone
    Arena has things on the side - a mechanic like a line aoe, cone, half circle, ect is about to happen there

    These are all telegraphed, and the boss slowly teaches you the mechanics before putting two together. There is nothing hard about that.

    Does anyone remember the Qitana Ravel with the first stone boss? First introduces the fist half room cleave even with a noise introduction, then the statue does it, then it combines. That is about as complicated as the bosses in this expansion.
    How about Castrum Abania? The second boss they nerfed and they made it so easy. There were three elemental buffs you could stand in. The boss would call out two elements and you go in the one he didn't call out. They nerfed it because what? It was hard to read??? The boss clearly says it in chat. At least they kind of made the new mechanics even more jank and I like them and people are still getting thrown off but I didn't have any issues with reading.

    Remember this is a game. It needs to have learning experiences in it so that it doesn't become boring. There were more people quitting because stuff was too easy.

    I 100% agree with a harder difficulty leveling dungeon because if people are going to refuse to learn new things and quit the game because they do not want to adapt when your role is literally to be a hero, how are we going to make both sides happy?

    You are a warrior of light, your challenges are hard, you hone your skills, you fight. Tanks save the party by doing reprisal when some aoe happens that is unavoidable to save your party, healers shield quick, dps kill the bad guys because a dead enemy is the best mitigation. Please guys just learn to embrace difficulty and learn to play. Don't stand in the AOEs thata re being telegraphed blatantly. Anyone see Idiocracy where Joe Bauers is watching those guys trying to put the blocks in the shaped holes and they are failing and they are covering it up like Joe is cheating when he is just looking at amazement at what is actually going on? Don't make me feel like Joe please. Please don't do this to me hahaha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadMaris View Post
    Go back to oogling your fem character with mods in secret.
    Whats your deal bub? As a content creator your not good at dealing with conflict, goes straight to insults, you should work on that. Super weird statement to label someone because what? They are miqote? Cringe as feck.

    Edit:also your comments had nothing to do with this post until the second paragraph in your second post. Shamless plug to your yt thay nobody asked for that k you for your nothing burger commentary.
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    Last edited by alfarini; 07-27-2024 at 01:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfarini View Post
    Whats your deal bub? As a content creator your not good at dealing with conflict, goes straight to insults, you should work on that. Super weird statement to label someone because what? They are miqote? Cringe as feck.
    Read their post, they went for insults and disrespect first without even reading calling me a shill and that I defended OP wanting nerfs. Clearly I don't. I quoted my video because I brought this issue up in it.
    Not interested in insulting random people here or OP, but refusing to read and just attacking someone for posting an opinion. Why even rage at OP whose probably still learning the game at the time of posting? Even if he quit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadMaris View Post
    Read their post, they went for insults and disrespect first without even reading calling me a shill and that I defended OP wanting nerfs. Clearly I don't. I quoted my video because I brought this issue up in it.
    Not interested in insulting random people here or OP, but refusing to read and just attacking someone for posting an opinion. Why even rage at OP whose probably still learning the game at the time of posting? Even if he quit.
    Need some thicker skin if your going to be putting yourself out there my friend. Bro I've read every post in here. Op has been playing since SB and refused to learn or take advice from anyone, they just want SE to listen to their bad takes. Only just recently, more than a week since this post went live we find out Op never even did m3 or m4 at all. Time does not equal experience but it's still no excuse to not learn basic gameplay.

    Edit: saying "they went for insults first" is childish.
    EOD your not worth it.
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    Last edited by alfarini; 07-27-2024 at 02:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfarini View Post
    Need some thicker skin if your going to be putting yourself out there my friend. Bro I've read every post in here. Op has been playing since SB and refused to learn or take advice from anyone, they just want SE to listen to their bad takes. Only just recently, more than a week since this post went live we find out Op never even did m3 or m4 at all. Time does not equal experience but it's still no excuse to not learn basic gameplay.
    I can take criticism, but you don't see me hurling baseless insults starting a conversation like that. Moving on from that, I'm posting because I am sick of this game getting nerfed because people(The average player/not vet) complain.
    It happens more times than it needed to over the last couple expansions now. Endwalkers raids got nerfed week 1 before some had a chance to even try them "as intended" If OP didn't finish the raid tier, thats sadly on them. M3 and M4 were imo my favorite 2 thus far and I cannot wait to do savage myself.
    I get their frustration. To reach to the end of current MSQ, especially with Skydeeps final boss literally being a mini version of a previous savage(Don't want to say which for spoiler reasons respectfully), but to come out here and voice that only for us to bash the guy seems just... wrong.

    I just think there has gotta be a better alternative. Bringing back Hard Dungeons would be a solution. If done the correct way, Would make the future MSQ a bit more enjoyable to veterans and new players alike. For example, The very first dawntrail dungeon. Have a (Hard) version of it and all the ones that follow until level cap. Doing either one progresses the MSQ, but doing the harder one grants more exp, items, and gil perhaps? Would make leveling in a harder dungeon more rewarding then mindless to a veteran and more challenging of an idea to the average player to attempt, however getting mad at one another or bashing OP or others opinions doesn't get anywhere. I merely leave this as a suggestion.


    EDIT: I wanna bring up a point right now. Many are quitting because the game is too easy and too many nerfs. SE has avoided nerfing ultimates. I hard agree with them. However. Let me say this. Ucob, Nael quotes which for those that don't know that ultimate the boss will say the mechanics in chat and you gotta read them in real time. YoshiP and the Devs know this nael quote trigger was a horrible idea and yet they never changed it which I REPSECT THE HELL out of them for doing.

    Now look at Dawntrails first trial with the red text dead in the middle of the screen TELLING YOU WHAT THE BOSS IS DOING. Imagine if SE went back and nerfed ucob with something like this. I would be greatly upset myself like OP for the opposite reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadMaris View Post
    I can take criticism, but you don't see me hurling baseless insults starting a conversation like that. Moving on from that, I'm posting because I am sick of this game getting nerfed because people(The average player/not vet) complain.
    It happens more times than it needed to over the last couple expansions now. Endwalkers raids got nerfed week 1 before some had a chance to even try them "as intended" If OP didn't finish the raid tier, thats sadly on them. M3 and M4 were imo my favorite 2 thus far and I cannot wait to do savage myself.
    I get their frustration. To reach to the end of current MSQ, especially with Skydeeps final boss literally being a mini version of a previous savage(Don't want to say which for spoiler reasons respectfully), but to come out here and voice that only for us to bash the guy seems just... wrong.

    I just think there has gotta be a better alternative. Bringing back Hard Dungeons would be a solution. If done the correct way, Would make the future MSQ a bit more enjoyable to veterans and new players alike. For example, The very first dawntrail dungeon. Have a (Hard) version of it and all the ones that follow until level cap. Doing either one progresses the MSQ, but doing the harder one grants more exp, items, and gil perhaps? Would make leveling in a harder dungeon more rewarding then mindless to a veteran and more challenging of an idea to the average player to attempt, however getting mad at one another or bashing OP or others opinions doesn't get anywhere. I merely leave this as a suggestion.


    EDIT: I wanna bring up a point right now. Many are quitting because the game is too easy and too many nerfs. SE has avoided nerfing ultimates. I hard agree with them. However. Let me say this. Ucob, Nael quotes which for those that don't know that ultimate the boss will say the mechanics in chat and you gotta read them in real time. YoshiP and the Devs know this nael quote trigger was a horrible idea and yet they never changed it which I REPSECT THE HELL out of them for doing.

    Now look at Dawntrails first trial with the red text dead in the middle of the screen TELLING YOU WHAT THE BOSS IS DOING. Imagine if SE went back and nerfed ucob with something like this. I would be greatly upset myself like OP for the opposite reason.

    That wouldn't nerf UCOB btw.

    Quotes already exist in Nael, Bahamut phase and Adds.

    I think these quote bars would be a great QOL for UCOB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightHour View Post
    That wouldn't nerf UCOB btw.

    Quotes already exist in Nael, Bahamut phase and Adds.

    I think these quote bars would be a great QOL for UCOB.
    Yeah, but YoshiP is against changing even that text. The quotes, Like how their done compared to putting them dead center on the screen. I havent touched Ucob in years, but I remember the quote was just a speech bubble and green text chat.
    If it was changed from what it was, it's still a nerf. They changed the way the duty was intended even if its a QoL. If you remember TOP was bugged with healers dying immediately. They knew it was an issue and didn't fix it for sometime AFTER world first. (Which got cheated anyway.)

    The last thing I wanted to say before I head out is there are YouTube guides to learn even normal dungeons and trials. YouTubers like myself and Streamers shouldn't be trashed on simply for giving input, guides, or feedback. I'm certain video guides for hector and mtqcapture helped many of you. However many outside this forum(Obv, You need a SE Service account to post so you do play.) that don't play only add fire to the community when it doesn't need it. Like for example, As I said earlier. Xenos clearing the first dawntrail dungeon without a healer. (I get it, He's a popular streamer.) I was soloing The Dead Ends as a PLD when it was current. I did Skydeep solo as a PLD aswell. It's a bit hard sure, but it doesn't mean a jobclass is useless and the whole community shouldn't go on strike over something like it either. Its not like TOP was done without a healer and yet we didn't have a healer strike over that, right?

    Let's chill, wait for class rebalances while hoping for no nerfs. It doesn't hurt to listen to what I had to say either in my video. I'm not interested in a view count or subs either. The video as I said isn't monetized. I'm just complaining about other things in the game which just happened to coincide with this one. Again, This comes from someone playing since 2.5, I been playing for well over 9 years now. I love this game, wanna love the community. Sadly, All we do is fight rather than come up with solutions for devs.
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