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  1. #1151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Although it has been said before, one thing that often surprises me is the disconnect between the Community on the forums/social media and the in-game community.
    I mean, I don't see people demanding square enix make my own experience worst for their own sakes in game, so naturally, I'm not inclined to defend my interests concerning that topic in game.
    However, I've been stalked and unfairly demonized by a person who told lies about me to my people in limsa and in my fc because she got too close to me and I put a stop to it. She did not handle rejection well. :P
    At first, everyone turned on me, it worked so well, it genuinely like, affected my RL, I couldn't sleep anymore, I was constantly anxious about what was going on in game. I was working on an FC with a friend, we had something like 25 members, when this broke out in the FC, half of our members left overnight. I had to leave myself to stop the bleeding. I was getting disparaging IM's from people I didn't even know that I've never met that aren't even near me. Even friends that supported me at first stopped associating with me because they didn't want to make themselves a target.
    And like, I'd say it's the effect she was looking for, so much that she got empowered to take it further and further, and at some point she crossed lines both for people and for staff.
    She got reprimanded, and people started looking at her sideways, so she changed servers. Whole ordeal lasted about two months. I don't even see this kind of commitment to drama in things like VRChat and Second Life lol.
    Since then, I haven't really participated socially beyond helping sprouts and chipping in on some off topic discussions in NN.

    Rules are applied more severely in game, so people are a lot more subtle with their drama.
    People gossip in IM's and in their CWLS', changing or omitting just liiittle details in events surrounding them to change the narrative in their favor, that sort of stuff. Very mean girls energy. :P
    I prefer the forums if we're talking about "community", it's more honest and upfront, but whether it's in game or in the forums, community is not as good as we pretend.
    The kind of drama I see on ffxiv, I don't really see elsewhere on the internet, and I think it's cultivated in part by SE being so strict on language and conflict, that it makes it hard to express our grievances in game.
    I do want to say however that as humans, we're biased to assign more importance to the negative things we experience. (acknowledging this and factoring this bias in my life everyday made my life soooo much better, btw, highly recommend)
    I meet great people that aren't as dramatic in game every day, and whole immense lot more than bad people.
    When it does get dramatic though, it goes hard rofl. How that tweet describes ffxiv drama is very on-point, I feel, and not just accurate about social media/forums. It's exactly the experience I recounted up there.
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    Last edited by jdtuggey; 07-23-2024 at 09:55 PM.

  2. #1152
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    Yes I think casual should stop being used, cant we go back to noobs and maybe even gimps :P
    I like turbocasuals, it sounds funny and isn't disparaging imho.
    I think it's okay if people are that, I don't judge it, I just don't want the devs to make the content that appeals to me appeal to them instead like they did in the past.
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  3. #1153
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    Yes I think casual should stop being used, cant we go back to noobs and maybe even gimps :P
    I consider myself casual as I no longer do savage raids. I still do extremes and love the new dungeons, raid bosses, mechanics, etc. The team did a wonderful job and I hope they continue making fights creative and interesting, with some familiar stuff of course. To those complaining all I have to say is stop pushing your agenda to make everything easy mode. You are supposed to wipe on new bosses, more than once at that. Things should be a little rough at the start, that is what makes it fun. Just take a moment to reflect on how you messed up and learn the fight, it is not a difficult concept.
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    Last edited by Mictla; 07-24-2024 at 12:31 AM.

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  5. #1154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solsbeary View Post
    So its now week four of the dungeons and week two of the raid.

    Focusing on the raid, i can categorically say that week two is easier.

    Week one deaths: M1 - 9, M2 - 4, M3 - 1, M4 - 6
    Week two deaths so far: M1 - 1, M3 - 0 (yet to do M2/4)

    This is because the fight is easier because I have now experienced it more.

    Stop being an overdramatic reactionary and actually experience things. Or actually contextualise it better by stating its your initial thoughts, rather than a blanket view that things are too difficult.

    Unfamiliar =/= more difficult!
    Chipping in my own datapoints

    Week 1: 0, 2, 0, 3
    Week 2: 0, 0, 0, 0
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  6. #1155
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    You and your ilk have spent over 100 pages and 1,000 posts obsessing over OP for posting an opinion. Not only that, but you lash out with ad hominems against anyone who defends OP. This doesn’t look good for Final Fantasy XIV. At this point, I don’t think the community can be saved. Let’s hope World of Warcraft’s new expansion is good and Blizzard can nurture a better community than this one. It’s sad that a multibillion-dollar corporation gets people to attack each other because it can’t fix the net code or the hitboxes in M2.
    That is because the OP is dead wrong and is actively trying to ruin the game. That is how I see their so-called opinion, they wanted to start an argument on the forums, well they got it.
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  7. #1156
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdtuggey View Post
    I mean, I don't see people demanding square enix make my own experience worst for their own sakes in game, so naturally, I'm not inclined to defend my interests concerning that topic in game.
    However, I've been stalked and unfairly demonized by a person who told lies about me to my people in limsa and in my fc because she got too close to me and I put a stop to it. She did not handle rejection well. :P
    At first, everyone turned on me, it worked so well, it genuinely like, affected my RL, I couldn't sleep anymore, I was constantly anxious about what was going on in game. I was working on an FC with a friend, we had something like 25 members, when this broke out in the FC, half of our members left overnight. I had to leave myself to stop the bleeding. I was getting disparaging IM's from people I didn't even know that I've never met that aren't even near me. Even friends that supported me at first stopped associating with me because they didn't want to make themselves a target.
    And like, I'd say it's the effect she was looking for, so much that she got empowered to take it further and further, and at some point she crossed lines both for people and for staff.
    She got reprimanded, and people started looking at her sideways, so she changed servers. Whole ordeal lasted about two months. I don't even see this kind of commitment to drama in things like VRChat and Second Life lol.
    Since then, I haven't really participated socially beyond helping sprouts and chipping in on some off topic discussions in NN.

    Rules are applied more severely in game, so people are a lot more subtle with their drama.
    People gossip in IM's and in their CWLS', changing or omitting just liiittle details in events surrounding them to change the narrative in their favor, that sort of stuff. Very mean girls energy. :P
    I prefer the forums if we're talking about "community", it's more honest and upfront, but whether it's in game or in the forums, community is not as good as we pretend.

    When it does get dramatic though, it goes hard rofl. How that tweet describes ffxiv drama is very on-point, I feel, and not just accurate about social media/forums. It's exactly the experience I recounted up there.
    Sorry to hear of your experience in-game. Can't say have experienced anything to that degree, though did offend some weirdo by 'targeting' them for too long whilst trying to look at a particular Glam arm piece they had that I was unfamiliar with; I apologised and explained, and added that I thought their glam looked great but before I knew it they'd summoned their FC Leader to "have a word with me". Some people!
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  8. #1157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mictla View Post
    That is because the OP is dead wrong and is actively trying to ruin the game. That is how I see their so-called opinion, they wanted to start an argument on the forums, well they got it.
    ultimately that's the only reason I'm piping up, OP is allowed to have that opinion but I don't want that opinion unchallenged on the official forums and used by the devs as feedback for future content. it's unfortunate that OP and others are struggling with the content, I hope they are able to improve and overcome the challenge, and would even be willing to try and assist them in improving but I don't want to see it made even easier. I think Dawntrail is in a very fun spot, in normal mode combat content, it's one of the few things I don't have any complaints about with the expac.
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  9. #1158
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    Tomana Dawnstar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solsbeary View Post
    Week one deaths: M1 - 9, M2 - 4, M3 - 1, M4 - 6
    Week two deaths so far: M1 - 1, M3 - 0 (yet to do M2/4)
    I had one death in the 4 raids this week (after dying "quite a bit" more on week one XD).
    That doesn't change the fact they are annoying to play.
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  11. #1159
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDawnstar View Post
    I had one death in the 4 raids this week (after dying "quite a bit" more on week one XD).
    That doesn't change the fact they are annoying to play.
    You say annoying I say extremely fun and creative.
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  12. #1160
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDawnstar View Post
    I had one death in the 4 raids this week (after dying "quite a bit" more on week one XD).
    That doesn't change the fact they are annoying to play.
    I had four deaths and we wiped once this week, did all four.
    We wiped on Honey B, I said in party chat: "I don't even mind, these fights are so entertaining".
    It's a letdown when I personally die, but I blame myself, and I encourage myself to not let it happen next time. ♥
    I was so eager to redo the fights that I went ahead and didn't wait for my friends lol, I got all my loots, but hell yeah I'll do them again.
    There's 25 million players on ffxiv, and square has data on each and every one of them.
    They know if you're wiping on honey b, they know if it's unfair, all of that irrespective of your own perspective in favor of a less biased one.
    I'm sorry you find these fights annoying, but I found endwalker fights boring. ;o;
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