Difficulty of normal content.

[alfarini]

It's fun the first time and then it isn't on the second. It's like Alliance Raids (especially SB/SHB) - they are epic the first time and then, when you get them in Alliance Roulette, you know you are in for 45 minutes of pain and suffering

Then don't queue into them *BIG SMILY FACE*

[TDawnstar]

Then don't queue into them *BIG SMILY FACE*

But Nier glams are so pretty

[jdtuggey]

Then don't queue into them *BIG SMILY FACE*

But Nier glams are so pretty

When you don't want to play the game, you just want to look gucci in limsa with 0 effort. ;o

[Jinglypockets]

When you don't want to play the game, you just want to look gucci in limsa with 0 effort. ;o

There are two types of MMO players:

People who think the gameplay is fun and the rewards are an incentive to do the things they wanted to do anyway.
People who think getting rewards is fun and the gameplay is the cost of getting them.

This isn't a value judgment; I'm personally in group 1, but I know plenty of bad players in group 1 and plenty of great players in group 2, and I have decades-long friendships with people on both sides of this divide.

Still, it has a huge impact on which content you enjoy and why you enjoy it.

[jdtuggey]

This isn't a value judgment

I have nothing against any of these groups myself, to be clear, it's when the expectations/needs intersect in a bad way like this whole thread, basically, that it gets a little more tense.
I agree with everything you've said there.

[Jaxtaro]

There are two types of MMO players:

People who think the gameplay is fun and the rewards are an incentive to do the things they wanted to do anyway.
People who think getting rewards is fun and the gameplay is the cost of getting them.

This isn't a value judgment; I'm personally in group 1, but I know plenty of bad players in group 1 and plenty of great players in group 2, and I have decades-long friendships with people on both sides of this divide.

Still, it has a huge impact on which content you enjoy and why you enjoy it.

I mean, these are definitely two prominent categories, but there are a lot more than these two categories. It's the reason behind the mass appeal of MMO's.

[alfarini]

But Nier glams are so pretty

Then unsync glam farm them. *BIGGEST SMILY FACE*

[alfarini]

I literally have to recite aloud to myself "left-right-right-left-left" (in French) because otherwise, there is about 0 chance that I'll remember them and get them correctly.

Ok and? I do this to and so do most people. Even top end raiders weather it's said out loud or in your head it's the same thing. It's you solving the problem. Memory games are a small part of the
standard fair in 14. Seriously you had an issue with a mech and you solved it in your own way. That's just basic problem solving, your an adult right? Do you really need your hand held the whole time?

[TDawnstar]

Ok and?

And it's not my idea of a fun mechanic, that is all I'd rather have a healing check or something fun like math boss in Ivalice

[Sida]

And it's not my idea of a fun mechanic, that is all I'd rather have a healing check or something fun like math boss in Ivalice

Makes me wonder. What would your reply be to people who complain the math boss is too hard because they can't count things in so limited amount if time? Or can't even figure out such things as divisibility or primes.