Piety substat desperately needs change

[Carighan]

Because healers went on strike, so that Healer specific stats is forgotten

Ah, someone who believes the 5 Youtubers who stopped playing matter. We could have gotten actual solutions had we not tried to idolize people who make money from us watching their content and hence for whom riling us up in a "healer strike" is merely a business decision: It makes more people watch their videos about it, hence more ad income.

(People are quick to forget that content creators are business people, not community voices)

[Shurrikhan]

Ah, someone who believes the 5 Youtubers who stopped playing matter. We could have gotten actual solutions had we not tried to idolize people who make money from us watching their content and hence for whom riling us up in a "healer strike" is merely a business decision: It makes more people watch their videos about it, hence more ad income.

(People are quick to forget that content creators are business people, not community voices)

About* or against*. Not in.

[Silver-Strider]

Ah, someone who believes the 5 Youtubers who stopped playing matter. We could have gotten actual solutions had we not tried to idolize people who make money from us watching their content and hence for whom riling us up in a "healer strike" is merely a business decision: It makes more people watch their videos about it, hence more ad income.

(People are quick to forget that content creators are business people, not community voices)

There's been years of feedback in regards to piety that has all been ignored. To hell with the youtubers, the strike happened before they commented on it

[Dante131]

I want it to work like Tenacity.

+MP regen
+ Damage
+ Healing provided

But the community isn't vocal enough about this stat.
It's a forgotten "problem".

tenacity sounds good but is not so usefull as it sounds. i would like both to be meaningfull

[Supersnow845]

tenacity sounds good but is not so usefull as it sounds. i would like both to be meaningfull

Tenacity isn’t great but piety it’s actually a DPS gain to drop your ilvl up to 30 ilvls to avoid putting piety on your gear

Tenacity is strong enough that it’s never a gain to drop ilvls

[elioaiko]

The problem with MP and Piety is that you can't really make a healer have bad MP economy bc then you're being forced to melded a stat that the other jobs don't have to deal with.

I'd rather they just make piety similiar to DH.

[Mihka]

If they want it to be really useful, it should provide significantly more mana regen per tick than it currently does. That way it would actually serve a purpose in prog settings. As it is, you could meld full piety over your whole set and you'll get like.. 2 more revives out over the course of a fight before going out of mana, it's a bad joke.

Or, as others said, give it the Tenacity treatment and make it roughly similar to Determination on a -10 ilvl piece, but I think buffing it to serve a niche purpose would be more interesting, because you're still never gonna meld Tenacity, and you wouldn't meld Piety either if it got this treatment.

[wildvenonat]

Piety materia being useless is okay by me, but full agreement on making the stat itself useful. I would personally like it to be a mitigation stat like Tenacity + some healing potency as well, as piety is most useful during prog and a bit of damage mitigation and stronger heals makes prog easier.

[Elizasylen]

just make it the Healer's det. +dmg +healing +mp. Make Tenacity and Piety on par with Det and replace Det in those specific roles. Since only those roles can use those stats.

[SnowVix]

This tier's gear proves the point. At this point, there's serious consideration being given by the better than me at combat math nerds that the item level 710 gloves, which, it should be noted, would have significantly less Mind than the augmented tome or raid gloves at 730, might contribute more to damage than either of those, Piety is such a nothing stat.

Edit: same with the 710 normal raid boots.