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    omg thats sick why would you post a Male on that gear

    just to clarify something, my reaction to that gear on a male has nothing to do with the problems the starter of this thread has with the females, I would never ever wear it couse it just aint right on an elvaan atleast, ive seen lalafel or w/e with it and its not bad, Galka or w/e there called now look cool with it, havent seen a hume male with it on, but it just dont fit the vibe the elvaan give, thats my opinion, oh I do have a set of both gears and when I remake as a male Mi'qoe or w/e the spelling for Mithra is now you can be sure as hell ill be wearing both full time, obviously not when doing stuff

    its hard to type here /cry, have to explain every little detail so ppl dont get upset over shit, like you know someone will say "lol you wear that for events and stuff" and the answert is no just no I dont
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    @OP: You're not going to have a constructive discussion about these outfits on here. Speaking to them like they should understand institutionalized sexism, objectification, and other basic feminist concepts will just end like it did here: a bunch of kids derailing. I mean, look at this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Nabiri
    Just an example to show it can happen (though unrelated): My father is very sexist towards men. If he sees a man show any kind of emotion he picks on them and calls them girly/wimpy/unmanly.
    They think their father is sexist towards men because he calls them women. They seriously brought that as evidence of sexism against men. They don't even see how that's sexist towards women. There's no way you'd be able to explain the difference between a man in a video game wearing a skimpy outfit and a woman in a video game wearing a skimpy outfit; they just wouldn't get it.

    The level of mad in this thread is astounding, and it's not even from the OP. It's from all the people upset that someone dare say it's bad to objectify women. Hell, the OP has only made seven posts counting the thread-starter, yet this thing is 36 pages, most of which is slamming them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceol View Post
    @OP: You're not going to have a constructive discussion about these outfits on here. Speaking to them like they should understand institutionalized sexism, objectification, and other basic feminist concepts will just end like it did here: a bunch of kids derailing. I mean, look at this:



    They think their father is sexist towards men because he calls them women. They seriously brought that as evidence of sexism against men. They don't even see how that's sexist towards women. There's no way you'd be able to explain the difference between a man in a video game wearing a skimpy outfit and a woman in a video game wearing a skimpy outfit; they just wouldn't get it.

    The level of mad in this thread is astounding, and it's not even from the OP. It's from all the people upset that someone dare say it's bad to objectify women. Hell, the OP has only made seven posts counting the thread-starter, yet this thing is 36 pages, most of which is slamming them.
    Wow... So you agree its impossible to be sexist towards men... Not sure if your just trolling or not... Are you dating the OP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxicFox View Post
    Wow... So you agree its impossible to be sexist towards men... Not sure if your just trolling or not... Are you dating the OP?
    See what I mean? Completely missed the point and tosses in an ad hominem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxicFox View Post
    Wow... So you agree its impossible to be sexist towards men... Not sure if your just trolling or not... Are you dating the OP?
    His point flew way over your head..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceol View Post
    @OP: You're not going to have a constructive discussion about these outfits on here. Speaking to them like they should understand institutionalized sexism, objectification, and other basic feminist concepts will just end like it did here: a bunch of kids derailing. I mean, look at this:



    They think their father is sexist towards men because he calls them women. They seriously brought that as evidence of sexism against men. They don't even see how that's sexist towards women. There's no way you'd be able to explain the difference between a man in a video game wearing a skimpy outfit and a woman in a video game wearing a skimpy outfit; they just wouldn't get it.

    The level of mad in this thread is astounding, and it's not even from the OP. It's from all the people upset that someone dare say it's bad to objectify women. Hell, the OP has only made seven posts counting the thread-starter, yet this thing is 36 pages, most of which is slamming them.

    actually by their father doing that it is an act of sexism which is defined as a oh f- this


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism


    read the first paragraph.... that defines sexism and yes another man calling another man a woman or whatnot because they show emotions is sexist because of the stereotypical man being macho and butch and doesn't show ones feelings

    also from there

    Assertive women; for example, are called "bitches," whereas men who lack physical strength are seen as "wimps".

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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceol View Post
    They think their father is sexist towards men because he calls them women. They seriously brought that as evidence of sexism against men. They don't even see how that's sexist towards women.
    No no no no no no.... lol You misunderstood.
    I think my father was being sexist towards men by thinking that men should not be able to express emotions that he feels are only meant for women. Ex. Crying from happiness at a wedding.

    Please, do yourself a favour and don't tell other people what you think they are thinking.
    Nice try though. ;3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabiri View Post
    No no no no no no.... lol You misunderstood.
    I think my father was being sexist towards men by thinking that men should not be able to express emotions that he feels are only meant for women. Ex. Crying from happiness at a wedding.

    Please, do yourself a favour and don't tell other people what you think they are thinking.
    Nice try though. ;3
    No, see the point is that what your father is being sexist towards women. Just to make sure, this is unrelated to "women can never be sexist." This is its own thing and is a bit simpler.

    Your father is insulting a man by comparing him to a woman. First order logic would say this is sexist against men, right? He's insulting men! But the way he is insulting men is by saying women are inferior, and saying this man is like a woman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceol View Post
    Your father is insulting a man by comparing him to a woman. First order logic would say this is sexist against men, right? He's insulting men! But the way he is insulting men is by saying women are inferior, and saying this man is like a woman.
    Has nothing to do with thinking women are inferior, and he has never said or implied any such thing.
    Simply put, he has a problem with men acting a certain way.
    He was insulting a man by saying that they could/should not share the same emotions women do.

    And you do not know my father. So don't pretend to know what he thinks either. Thanks for the laughs though.


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    thank me later.
    I'll thank you now~ lol /bow

    Edit: Posted the videos on facebook for the lulz. :3
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    Last edited by Nabiri; 07-30-2012 at 12:47 PM.

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