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    Dawntrail isn't 10 year plan that we expected it

    FFXIV is game that highly focus on story aspect

    If story fail game will fail

    10 year plan was so ambiguous with no clarity on how it will be implemented.

    As Yoshi has argument that this expansion is a "test"

    Dear Yoshi P expansions can never be test environment

    We had 5 big patches that we could test.. not a major part of the story.

    If we got writing team that is "new" let them create side stories like how ShB creates dark knight story before shadowbringers

    "New" should not be jumped into expansion story and do some ice cream ark with sphen and wuk Lamar.

    Writers have potential but they are not ready for expansion yet.
    We have to trust them on side stories first.

    At the end want clear plan on what to become next

    10 years plan should be clear

    Story should be able to build up to next expansion not selling expansions like separate stories that have no purpose of world building

    Gameplay and combat system need a clear plan of what will be implemented at 1 to 2 year from now

    Side activities and social aspect of that like housing

    We want to be part of 10 year plan as a players who invest time and money and love for this game
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    I was thinking about this, about how Dawntrail was supposed to lead in to another grand adventure. Then it just... doesn't. There's no interconnecting tissue, no lead up. It just...stops. No hints, just... frustration.

    I have no faith in the 7.X lead up either. 6.X lead up to us helping restore a shard and then took a hard left turn into fanfiction territory while dropping that entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palladiamors View Post
    I was thinking about this, about how Dawntrail was supposed to lead in to another grand adventure. Then it just... doesn't. There's no interconnecting tissue, no lead up. It just...stops. No hints, just... frustration.

    I have no faith in the 7.X lead up either. 6.X lead up to us helping restore a shard and then took a hard left turn into fanfiction territory while dropping that entirely.
    Ehh while I don’t think that DT sets up “enough”, the Azem shard key is definitely more of a setup than anything to do with zero and the jaunt through the 13th
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Ehh while I don’t think that DT sets up “enough”, the Azem shard key is definitely more of a setup than anything to do with zero and the jaunt through the 13th
    Just wait until we get access to shard travel by 7.3 and drop that thing entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuine_stranger View Post
    Just wait until we get access to shard travel by 7.3 and drop that thing entirely.
    I mean if we get unrestricted shard travel to the remaining 4/5 shards (we already have access to the first and Alexandria if that is or isn’t the shattered remnants of the 12th or not and while we can traverse the 13th there is no aetheryte we have access to) it’s going to be because of that key so I think that’s a big enough plot point
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    Dawntrail probably opened more possibilities than previous expansions though. I mean, could you really have guessed after defeating Thordan that the next steps of the journey will involve liberating Ala Mhigo and Doma and going to the First? Those threads opened up in 3.X.
    After defeating Shinryu nothing was pointing towards our visit on the First at all. I remember a lot of people thought we would deal with Garlemald next.
    And now DT is quite clearly hinting at using that key and exploring the rest of Tural with Erenville. At least that.
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    we'll be starring in the Lion King for the next 10 years. this is the plan
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    Dei and special friends forever is the future it seems.
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    We literally only have the base expansion story to go off of and not any of the patch content and you people are already complaining that there's no setup for future story/conflict.

    Because in base ARR after we took down Ultima Weapon we totally knew all of the wild rides we'd be on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Praesul View Post
    We literally only have the base expansion story to go off of and not any of the patch content and you people are already complaining that there's no setup for future story/conflict.

    Because in base ARR after we took down Ultima Weapon we totally knew all of the wild rides we'd be on.
    Base ARR was a clear opening for next adventure

    But dawntrail wasn't it is a filler with 1% buildup
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