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    SoraLuna's Avatar
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    Supportive Potato
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 82

    Whispering Dawn desperately needs a buff like Physis 2

    It was forgotten in Endwalker, and yet again forgotten in Dawntrail.

    Physis 2 combines half of Fey Illumination (on a 2min cooldown, reminder) and almost double the potency of Whispering Dawn's healing in a single button. This is just clunky and if the two buttons HAVE to exist, then at least upgrade Whispering Dawn to something that is not a 15 yalms 3k heal every tick, not when the HP bars go beyond 100k HP now.
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    1) SCH is already the strongest healer in the game and does not need a buff.
    2) Further homogeny of healers is absolutely not needed.
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    Tunda King
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    let's have all jobs do the something so we change job for aesthetic and weapon animation..
    I can't wait to see that coming
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    Zolmation Volt
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 70
    You can't compare scholar and sage's strengths ability by ability because they just have different toolkits. They enough similarities to compare some stuff but you get ot the point where you're comparing holos to seraph and wondering if fey blessing even exists in sage's toolkit and it's just a mess.

    But the one thing that can be said is sage is king of never using GCD's right now where as scholar has to GCD heal to get their raw power out in the form of deployments but those deployments are a lot stronger than a normal concitation or eukrasian prog 2
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    Innio Lynx
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    Sagittarius
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    Fisher Lv 100
    You don’t have to change the potency, but I would like the radius to be not 15 yalms, but more. I understand that we can control the fairy and place her anywhere, BUT the last savag and ex were terribly inconvenient to heal when you have to compromise and instead of 8 players you have to heal 4, as always. When you have the opportunity to use Whispering Dawn only on half the party.. I feel sad.. when Saga can stand in the corner of the arena and reach everyone in Physis II...
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Innio View Post
    You don’t have to change the potency, but I would like the radius to be not 15 yalms, but more. I understand that we can control the fairy and place her anywhere, BUT the last savag and ex were terribly inconvenient to heal when you have to compromise and instead of 8 players you have to heal 4, as always. When you have the opportunity to use Whispering Dawn only on half the party.. I feel sad.. when Saga can stand in the corner of the arena and reach everyone in Physis II...
    That feels like something that’s wrong with SGE not SCH

    what’s the point of having a totem healer when the “heals from self” healer can hit the next instance over with every heal they have
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    SCH doesn't need WD to be buffed.
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    Bibine Bine
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    Mateus
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    1) SCH is already the strongest healer in the game and does not need a buff.
    2) Further homogeny of healers is absolutely not needed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    let's have all jobs do the something so we change job for aesthetic and weapon animation..
    I can't wait to see that coming
    They're not saying that Whispering Dawn should just become the same ability, they're saying Physis II is just the stronger of the two, and they are very much analogous to each other already. Reading comprehension is hard, I guess.

    Also, when a bunch of stuff got their radius upgraded (including Physis and Physis II), Whispering Dawn didn't. Which is hilarious, because it's already difficult to manage positioning because it's coming from the fairy, so Whispering Dawn probably would've benefitted the most from a radius upgrade.
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bibine_Bine View Post
    They're not saying that Whispering Dawn should just become the same ability, they're saying Physis II is just the stronger of the two, and they are very much analogous to each other already. Reading comprehension is hard, I guess.

    Also, when a bunch of stuff got their radius upgraded (including Physis and Physis II), Whispering Dawn didn't. Which is hilarious, because it's already difficult to manage positioning because it's coming from the fairy, so Whispering Dawn probably would've benefitted the most from a radius upgrade.
    Reading comprehension is hard because nowhere in my statement did I say to make them the same. Making a smart ass comment only works if you're actually smart.

    Whispering Dawn doesn't need a radius increase BECAUSE it's centered on the Fairy and can actually be placed to cover the majority of the arena. God forbid a healer require some modicum of skill to figure out how to make their abilities can actually connect
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    Bibine Bine
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    Mateus
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Reading comprehension is hard because nowhere in my statement did I say to make them the same. Making a smart ass comment only works if you're actually smart.

    Whispering Dawn doesn't need a radius increase BECAUSE it's centered on the Fairy and can actually be placed to cover the majority of the arena. God forbid a healer require some modicum of skill to figure out how to make their abilities can actually connect
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    ...
    2) Further homogeny of healers is absolutely not needed.
    And as was stated here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Innio View Post
    You don’t have to change the potency, but I would like the radius to be not 15 yalms, but more. I understand that we can control the fairy and place her anywhere, BUT the last savag and ex were terribly inconvenient to heal when you have to compromise and instead of 8 players you have to heal 4, as always. When you have the opportunity to use Whispering Dawn only on half the party.. I feel sad.. when Saga can stand in the corner of the arena and reach everyone in Physis II...
    Sometimes you have situations where, even with proper fairy positioning, it will still not hit all of the raid, whereas with Physis II you can literally just sit in one of the split groups and hit everyone no problem.
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