A recent fundamental problem with FFXIV

[Reimmi]

Uh, Yoshi stated FFXIV would be referencing the series history in every way since before ARR's launch. Did you really expect anything different?

references =/= plagiarizing the entire plot

[Tunda]

Dawntrail was the start of 10 years journey

Which was the foundation of next 10 years

When Yoshi P said that he didn't mean 2.0 but 1.0 ������������������

[GrizzlyTank]

They have always used other FF as reference. Crystal Tower is literally from FF3. Evil Empire and questiona jesters (Ascians in this case) have always been a recurring theme.

As for FF7 we have had the meteor 1.0/ARR Bahamut and the weapons. Only thing missing is Jenova/Lavos, but they have already hinted to a potential entity for it through Ultima/Heart of Sabik/Athena and some global evil corporation.

[Musashidon]

problem? nah its great they need to keep it up, the references are great.

[Nebelheim]

I'm worried about the ff11 crossover raids and feel like they would butcher the legacy of ff11 with a watered down experience but I'm hoping the older devs on the dev team that previously worked on ff11 preserves ff11 and make a good series of raids.

[Nebelheim]

Huh? The Crystal Tower has been there since ARR. Then there was Alexander in HW, then Omega with a bunch of FFV and FFVI fights, and also the direct confirmation that XII and XIV share the same universe with the Ivalice Raids.

Are you people new to the game? I'm asking honestly. It's always had very obvert and shameless elements from older Final Fantasy games plastered all over. Whether you think this is a good or bad thing is for you to decide, but let's not act like this is a "recent" thing, because that's an objective lie.

There is also a bunch of mobs ripped and upscaled directly from ff11/12 and 13 as well and some mobs from other final fantasy games and dungeon bosses. And alzadaal's legacy being brought in from ff11.

[kaynide]

And alzadaal's legacy being brought in from ff11.

This one makes me laugh because Alzadaal was originally a bastardization of "Alexander", much like Dalamud and Bahamut.

Now, it's just become it's own entirely separate thing...kinda like Ogre Nix/Organics.

[Bright-Flower]

Huh? The Crystal Tower has been there since ARR. Then there was Alexander in HW, then Omega with a bunch of FFV and FFVI fights, and also the direct confirmation that XII and XIV share the same universe with the Ivalice Raids.

Are you people new to the game? I'm asking honestly. It's always had very obvert and shameless elements from older Final Fantasy games plastered all over. Whether you think this is a good or bad thing is for you to decide, but let's not act like this is a "recent" thing, because that's an objective lie.

FFXIV and XII do not share the same universe. XII and the first Tactics game do, but not FFXIV.

FFXIV has its own version of Ivalice. Just like it has its own version of the Crystal Tower, Doma, Alexandria etc. The differences between XII/Tactics and FFXIV really cannot be reconciled for a number of reasons. But one of the biggest ones is that everything is backwards. In the original Ivalice setting, XII takes place long before Tactics, where as in FFXIV the Tactics references are in the ancient past and the XII references are current day. Including XII's non human races still being around despite them having gone extinct some time between XII and Tactics.

FFXIV doesn't directly link itself to other FF games, outside of crossover events if you count them as canon. It's possible that the XI raids will break this trend, but it's more likely based on precedent (crystal tower raids, ivalice raids etc) that they will work their own version and adaptation of XI lore into FFXIV lore. Though IS possible we'll just like, go through a portal to XI's vana'diel, that's not how they've handled raids drawing from FF history in the past. Though they DID just have the Nier characters show up through a portal so it's possible I guess.

[GrizzlyTank]

FFXIV doesn't directly link itself to other FF games, outside of crossover events if you count them as canon. It's possible that the XI raids will break this trend, but it's more likely based on precedent (crystal tower raids, ivalice raids etc) that they will work their own version and adaptation of XI lore into FFXIV lore. Though IS possible we'll just like, go through a portal to XI's vana'diel, that's not how they've handled raids drawing from FF history in the past. Though they DID just have the Nier characters show up through a portal so it's possible I guess.

Yeah, only two things in FFXIV are "linked" with other games. One being our bro Greg who jumps through the various games, the other is Nier.

And while the Nier story itself was a bit too repetitive from Nier Automata itself, it could still be used as a hook for something else later from the persistent Nier villain, those Seeds of Destructions porting through worlds.