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    A recent fundamental problem with FFXIV

    Bluntly put, they've started to reuse old FF games for stories. While there has been hints to them in the past, they usually have left full references outside of MSW. They used to always be references but now they're intertwined. So after they're done with recreating FF7, should we expect Emet-Sephiroth in 7 years or so?

    I say this because I find the best stories in FFXIV are the original ones, it's almost is they're shy to just write an original story but when they did, it was the best one. Dawntrail ironically feels like they're reusing ARR.
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    They know fan service rakes in the money.

    FF7R is a ghastly, disfigured replica of FF7 but they don't care.

    They defiled FF9 in DT and they don't care.
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    F'helix Fraldarius
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    I have noticed this as well. The 6.x series was just a bunch of FF4 references. They had sprinkled some in before in Heavensward and base Endwalker, but then it just became "recreate this plot point from 4 in 14." Dawntrail stayed mostly original for the first 2/3rds, but then all of a sudden there's a bunch FF9 references, and at least from talking with my friends who played 9, really shallow and uninteresting ones at that. I heard the word "desecrate" more than once.
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    besides the name, some random songs that dont even fit the scene. and some weird vague references. this ff9 nod has been really fucking bad. its so bad i wonder if they even played the damn game
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    Uh, Yoshi stated FFXIV would be referencing the series history in every way since before ARR's launch. Did you really expect anything different?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Dawntrail was the start of 10 years journey

    Which was the foundation of next 10 years

    When Yoshi P said that he didn't mean 2.0 but 1.0
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    They have always used other FF as reference. Crystal Tower is literally from FF3. Evil Empire and questiona jesters (Ascians in this case) have always been a recurring theme.

    As for FF7 we have had the meteor 1.0/ARR Bahamut and the weapons. Only thing missing is Jenova/Lavos, but they have already hinted to a potential entity for it through Ultima/Heart of Sabik/Athena and some global evil corporation.
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    problem? nah its great they need to keep it up, the references are great.
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    Lilisette Lufaise
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    I'm worried about the ff11 crossover raids and feel like they would butcher the legacy of ff11 with a watered down experience but I'm hoping the older devs on the dev team that previously worked on ff11 preserves ff11 and make a good series of raids.
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    That is when the true Vana'diel of legend will be reborn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngaratoSvartberg View Post
    besides the name, some random songs that dont even fit the scene. and some weird vague references. this ff9 nod has been really fucking bad. its so bad i wonder if they even played the damn game
    Honestly the FF9 refernces feel like they were taken from notes from the game, it's doesn't feel like anyone on the team actually played it
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