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    I Don't Think That We Can See Another Tank In The Future

    I Don't Think That We Can See Another Tank In The Future

    really we are struggling to find an identity to dark knight

    how we can create "new job" with different identity

    guys I don't think we can see another tank that plays differently
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    I Don't Think That We Can See Another Tank In The Future

    really we are struggling to find an identity to dark knight

    how we can create "new job" with different identity

    guys I don't think we can see another tank that plays differently
    Tunda, we (you and I) are already talking about job design in this thread, you don't need to make a new thread for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Tunda, we (you and I) are already talking about job design in this thread, you don't need to make a new thread for this.
    Dear I am already talking about this in General Discussion section
    in this link
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    On some level even Squenix knows this, which is why we got another 2 DPS expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    On some level even Squenix knows this, which is why we got another 2 DPS expansion.
    You don't know what you're talking about. They're just repeating the pattern they've had since Stormblood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    On some level even Squenix knows this, which is why we got another 2 DPS expansion.
    To be fair, this does follow Square Enix's pattern, and we know how much SE loooooves sticking to the same pattern. Heavensward was kind of an outliner since we got three jobs, which they've said they'll never do again. So Stormblood moved up.

    That all being said, I've long held the belief we won't see another tank or healer. They'll either do double DPS or I could actually see 8.0 being where they drop to one job per expansion. Especially with the supposed job identity rework.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
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    I mean it's to be seen yet, but SE love patterns, next expac will maybe be Tank and P Ranged DPS. SB was a melee DPS and a Caster DPS, ShB was tank and P Ranged DPS, EW was healer and Melee DPS, DT Melee DPS and caster DPS, so logic might dictate we will get a tank and P Ranged DPS next expac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aodhan_ofinnegain View Post
    I mean it's to be seen yet, but SE love patterns, next expac will maybe be Tank and P Ranged DPS. SB was a melee DPS and a Caster DPS, ShB was tank and P Ranged DPS, EW was healer and Melee DPS, DT Melee DPS and caster DPS, so logic might dictate we will get a tank and P Ranged DPS next expac.
    that and the fact that they want to always make one far ranged job (healer/magic/ranged) or one close up job (tank/melee) I personally don't see them ever doing two ranged jobs like a caster or phys ranged, So the fact we got 2 melees in a row should point to us getting a tank and physical ranged because Phys ranged is only 3 as of current.

    Although, Personally i don't want any new jobs, I think they should spend 8.0 making what we got actually fun, instead of designing new jobs when our current jobs mostly aren't fun and are very samey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    Although, Personally i don't want any new jobs, I think they should spend 8.0 making what we got actually fun, instead of designing new jobs when our current jobs mostly aren't fun and are very samey.
    Personally I want one more physical ranged job to round out the numbers of each job, and then work on proper balancing and job design, but let's be honest, new jobs bring in more hype for an expac, so we'll probably still get new jobs for the foreseeable future.
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    Nia Niyah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    that and the fact that they want to always make one far ranged job (healer/magic/ranged) or one close up job (tank/melee) I personally don't see them ever doing two ranged jobs like a caster or phys ranged, So the fact we got 2 melees in a row should point to us getting a tank and physical ranged because Phys ranged is only 3 as of current.

    Although, Personally i don't want any new jobs, I think they should spend 8.0 making what we got actually fun, instead of designing new jobs when our current jobs mostly aren't fun and are very samey.
    I'd skip a expansion of jobs to have every current job redesigned to be more interesting in a heart beat
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