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  1. #1
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    Estguard's Avatar
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    Claire Estguard
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    Goblin
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    Black Mage Lv 100

    We need expansion/duty bans and easier/harder modes of duties.

    Dawntrail has shown a lot to me of the coming days that its been out, being sorry to say. Some of the absolute worst duties in the game. The whole expansion from MSQ to combat being completely awful.

    Its about time we obtain the rights to be able to ban duties or complete expansion we no longer want to do in the game. We paid for it. We should be able to completely opt out of it.

    I understand, it feels like a majority of players say "Get Good" etc and have a horrible toxic mentality. And Casuals officially have nothing in the game to do unless its 8 hours of mindless crafting and gathering.

    Endwalker has shown me the ramps are already too much and too uncomfortable. And Dawntrail forced it to be even worse.

    Currently outside of Worqor Zormor all the dungeons, and every single trial in this game is WAY too hard for the majority of the playerbase. And wiping for the 6th time to any of these duties are actually unfun completely.

    Am I asking for "steamrolling"?

    Not with players, no. What we need at the current time is NPC/Trusts to be literally 100% easier at all times to do any of the content in the game (along with trusts being able to do roulettes now.)

    We also need a normal mode that is only 25% harder, that would be the msq and normal roulettes making things a 1-2 wipe at the max if not 0. People should be 100% able to get the MSQ. Its MSQ. Meaning EVERY SINGLE duty. Needs a BLUE QUEST. That is the current terrible (and in my opinion and others that are getting shamed it feels like) difficulty of this expansion.

    Which also comes to the "Expansion Bans". We need them now. People don't want ARR anymore? Oh well its banned from their roulettes (except mentor) etc. IT IS time for this to already be in the game. So those that arent having fun anymore with things and wish to opt out.

    We also need straight 15% of each roulette being able to be banned if your not banning an expansion(s).

    Games becoming too difficult as a casual of casual. I dont want midcore in my MSQ this should be in blue quests and something YOU can opt into. Not the thing that your FORCED to do to play the expansion. I want fun. And replayability. Not frustration and every waking moment im thinking about pressing the "abandon duty" button.

    Though seeing how... kind of toxic this forums become along with reddit. I'm sure I'll have the opposite opinion.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Why even write a post if you are going to sign it off with “but yall toxic so you won’t agree with me anyway”
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    I’ll be honest not being sarcastic but I read everything you said and don’t have a clue what you want
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    Rostythgar Onasch
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    Mateus
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    Did you just say Endwalker was too hard? I don't think the game, or at least whatever job you are playing, is for you then. Yeah I'm coming off as a jerk but Endwalker was the easiest expansion.
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    Conant Sivrha
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    Siren
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Estguard View Post
    (along with trusts being able to do roulettes now.)
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    Which also comes to the "Expansion Bans". We need them now. People don't want ARR anymore? Oh well it’s banned from their roulettes (except mentor) etc. IT IS time for this to already be in the game. So those that arent having fun anymore with things and wish to opt out.

    We also need straight 15% of each roulette being able to be banned if your not banning an expansion(s).
    My understanding is that roulettes exist in part so that people who want to do specific duties can get a party for those duties through Duty Finder. If roulettes could be done with Duty Support/Trusts and could be curated so that people could avoid the duties (or whole expansions) that don’t align with their preferences, it would probably cause some notable problems and detract from the positive impact roulettes currently have on the game.

    Queues would probably become significantly longer for people who need to do low-level dungeons and trials for the story, which could drive people away from the game. Yes, those people could use Duty Support, but Duty Support is designed to be unpleasantly slow, and most people go into an MMO expecting multiplayer content. Beyond that, people who don’t filter out ARR, the specific duties that most people dislike, the slowest duties, etc, might have their roulettes oversaturated with those specific duties.

    Roulettes are optional. Gil, EXP, tomestones, and materia are obtainable through other means.

    That aside: I fully support the addition of easier options in solo duties and Duty Support, for players who can’t or don’t want to play the default difficulty for any reason. This would only be a positive change for the people who need it, and it wouldn’t negatively affect the experience of anyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConantSivrha View Post
    That aside: I fully support the addition of easier options in solo duties and Duty Support, for players who can’t or don’t want to play the default difficulty for any reason. This would only be a positive change for the people who need it, and it wouldn’t negatively affect the experience of anyone else.
    I don’t mind options either but not make trusts/duty support automatically easier as suggested by op. As for not getting new expansion dungeons, op can always queue for the duty of their choice (there’s a way to not get the DT dungeons but I refuse to explain it as it entails behaviour I don’t support). I use duty support when available to unlock a dungeon as I like the immersion with the npcs and their comments and I can take my time to look around as well as read notes when there are some. I wouldn’t want an easier dungeon though. I find them also useful when trying a new job.

    Anyway, op likely has a raid awareness problem and tunnel vision and needs to learn to look around and observe the environment. Maybe watch a guide for the dungeons if they can’t figure it out or learn them with a (patient) friend while in voice so they can tell them what to watch for (I helped someone who was probably the worse player ever).
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 07-14-2024 at 03:10 PM.

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    Cat Weazle
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    Marauder Lv 100
    What I would like to see when it comes to Trust/Duty Support is to make them rezz you when you die. That would actually be useful. Having to start from the beginning just because you die when the boss is at the last 5% is really really frustrating ...

    Opting out of roulettes or Duty Support in roulettes is something I would not want personally. However, for my taste, the difficulty level of MSQ dungeons/trials should be lowered. The level of Endwalker was just enough for me, doesn't need to get harder. I don't care about optional dungeons though, make them hard, I just don't do them then.
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    Kathelinda Nailo
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    Moogle
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    There are two causes of this problem:

    1. The sudden death mechs without any warning, 2. Requirement for fast reaction and very low pings.

    There are two solutions:

    1. Forget about dps/healing rotations and survive at any cost, 2. Certain means to improve the flawed mech indicators so it is as good as in EW.
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    Y'sira Nia
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I like the idea of being able to opt out of certain duties in some roulettes, but just very few. Let's say you can opt out of 3 duties each in leveling, high level, trials, normal raid and alliance raid. That way you can avoid the content you REALLY don't like, but it will hardly have an impact on queue times for players who need to do it (and if it actually does have a significant impact, Square Enix will know that they REALLY need to change something about those duties)

    Maybe this is a bit self serving, because i loathe the Nier raids and have been hesitant on using the alliance raid roulette out of fear of encountering them...
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    Y'thub Rakka
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    Shiva
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    Rogue Lv 100
    people here talking about the lack of indicators, and sudden death mechanics: I don't think we have been playing the same game LOL.

    The dev team literally goes out of the way to show the most important repeated mechanics of any (dungeon) boss and its variation in the first few seconds of the fight then it goes and mixes them, its not that difficult it just requires that you are paying attention to what you are doing
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