How do you feel about Viper?

[Allegor]

My main concern right off the bat, or I guess complaint, is that while double weaving is something a lot of jobs can do, it's never been mandatory (outside optimized high end raiding, I guess)....but with VPR double weaving is part of its core rotation, you HAVE to double weave, and as someone with higher ping, I may need a certain em oh dee just so it doesn't feel that unnecessarily clunky to play.

Aside from that, it's really fun and aesthetically pleasing, I also like how the positionals are literally color coded lol

Honestly disappointed that the twin-blade is just a design aesthetic. It would have been neat if they leaned into the different stances do different things aspect. But i guess that would add too much complexity for this job.

It caught me offguard too, I was under the impression dual wield stance would be your normal combo fillers and the twinblade your burst window (or vice versa). A bit of a missed opportunity I think /shrug

[KooriGraywolf]

I was really excited for it but the Noxious Gnash debuff mechanic put me off of it a little bit.

This is because I don't like "keep debuff on enemy" mechanics since it makes you have to dart your eyes to the enemy health every now and then to see if you have to re-apply it (and I'm not a big fan of Focus Target).

With other skills at least I've learned to use a macro with a sound effect reminder such as with bard's Iron Jaws, but with Viper it's impossible to use a macro due to the changing icons.

Not to say that I dislike the changing icons, I think it feels nice and it's a good direction in job design. But for example I felt like Monk felt a lot better once they got rid of the Demolish DoT.

Noxious Gnash removed, positionals kept. Best ending

[Lorika]

Noxious Gnash removed, positionals kept. Best ending

it is really?

[Leonus]

For some, it may be. For others, it may not.

There is a lot of people who don’t mind the change. They just aren’t vocal about it. I’ll continue to play it because it’s Viper. A dual wielding fast paced sword class. I won’t drop it just because NG is gone, though some people will.

[Higashikata]

If it wasn't broke, why "fix" it?