Jumping on dead players

[TalusRavenclaw]

It's always that one guy that, "thinks," he's done something when in fact it takes 6 ppl to bring you down...like he done something....

[melbye]

Had someone do that to me in a dungeon once. Got me intentionally killed too. I was DPS he was tank

[NorthernLadMSP]

My stance is; Play obnoxiously, get T-bagged.

I don't care how against ToS it is. If you're going to chase me halfway across the map in frontlines for no particular reason, or park yourself at spawn to attack people you earned it. When you choose to ignore objectives just to harass one player the entire match, or to deliberately make yourself a nuissance, regardless of it being CC/RW/FL expect to get my sack in your face when you get downed.

OMG exactly! A few weeks ago, there was one guy who had a stupid vendetta against an FC friend I was playing with because he had disagred with what my friend had said in alliance chat. He would chase him all over the map, and then started doing the same thing to me once he realized we were playing together. I'd never even heard of this person before that day. He spent the whole of multiple matches chasing us all over, and I got fed up with it, so after we killed him for like the 4th or 5th time, I laugh emoted at his body. He then turned around and sent my FC leader a message to tell on us. It was the most pathetic, childish bullshit I've ever encountered in a Frontlines match.

Then shortly after we got stuck with him in our same alliance and he started marking us as targets to ignore. Mind you, he had instigated the entire thing.

[Naizakane]

I like to jump on the corpses of SAMs who let me bait them into trying for the Zantetsuken one shot, only to end up not killing me due to my shield, swarmed by the rest of my team, and dead.

[Vandi]

Soo..

A little over a month ago. CC match. I’m on blm, Sharlayan map, nuking people. I get clumsy, low hped, but manage to back away. Next thing I know, lala Sam comes outta nowhere as I’m trying to heal, finishes me off low hp. Annoying, but is what it is. For whaaaaatever reason, said Sam starts to do the Manderville on me. Ooookay. Alright. I’m looking for him actively now, and notice he’s hanging at the back of his group, sniping, then slipping out. Cautious. A few nukes on him and he runs away immediately. Match continues. I get low hped, and there he is again. This time, he does the cheer jump emote. Fine.

Few matches later, were in the volcanic stage, me on pld, and he pops on other team. Right off the back, I 1-mark him, then cut around the rear path to hit from behind. Team actually listens to the mark and targets him on the initial attack. He retreats back at low hp behind group…aaaaaand who’s waiting for him? Aaaaah yeah. Shield bash, finish off, yellow paint broom, then I dog him the rest of the match, getting 2 more kills.

After the match, I’m immediately sent 2 tells…and cussed out. I’m going to state this plainly. For a degenerate like me, those tells were more gratifying than…you know (hi Mr. Mod!) I’m not a decent person, not a team player, so you can shame me for not putting the team first. But there is nothing…nothing…NOTHING more soul searchingly satisfying from getting revenge on t-baggers. (this is also why I love CC so much, because unlike in FL, 4 teammates in CC is no where near enough to keep you safe when you t-bag lolol)

[Commander_Justitia]

Well, after they banned chat, and banned those funny consumables like fireworks etc. maybe they will ban emotes next. It would be a sad day, as I emote often during PvP. Which makes the game more fun for me, but also for my opponent, when e.g. my team is so bad that I prefer roleplaying and gpose than playing the game.

[Nubrication]

The only reason that gesturing of any kind in relation to a downed opponent is a problem is because XIV's PvP is not skill based (just like the rest of the game), nor is it in any way a fair contest. And whilst they will never acknowledge PvP's systemic flaw publicly, they do punish actions on KO'd opponents on that basis.

Having someone celebrate or gloat in any manner because you were KO'd in what is almost entirely a luck-based mode, is the cause of it being annoying. It's entirely possible for 'the gloater' to not even realise that they may have contributed as little as 4% of damage to a KO, amongst 3 of their other teammates. Even in 1v1, the PvP stuff is just too fast of a skill spam to be respectably quantifiable.

No one ever complained in CSGO of such things, because that was a quantifiable game with a set structure (rip 2000-2017). You can try and say 1v1 is fair between 2 of the same job- but positioning doesn't count for anything. You're basically counting on the other person to make a mistake and press a button at the wrong time, do it too slow, or forget altogether. There's no skill ceiling that enables you to do something *better* than someone else. It's either 1 or 0 in XIV, you did something or you didn't. There is no capacity for how and out-howing someone else. And thus having someone emote or jump on you when they didn't out-how you, is annoying. They are celebrating that you didn't press a button at a particular point, akin to celebrating you causing a raid to wipe because you missed a tiny bit of dps or something.

Tell me you don’t actually pvp without telling me you don’t actually pvp. FL doesn’t count. Try ranked, get to crystal and then tell me it’s not skill based.

Yes, it is semi-RNG depending on team composition.

Yes, it is semi-RNG in casual in who you get grouped with on your team.

FFXIV PVP (CC - which stands for Crystalline Conflict in this scenario) is not like CS or starcraft or w/e. It’s closer to Overwatch. It’s a team game. Yes, tanks matter. Yes, healers/supports matters. Yes, good carries (most of the dps job) matter. You don’t 1v1 a carry as a support in duels. Duels are not a gauge of how CC actually is or even FL for that matter.

Sure, the mode does have its flaws but none of the flaws you wrote simply because you don’t know how to play.

Also, you don’t quantify who has the most kills in CC. As you said, anyone can last hit. You look at all the stats at the end of the game but mainly dmg done. That’s the person who contributed the most to securing kills. And if you think it’s just button mashing, you clearly have no clue what you’re doing whatsoever.

[Divinemights]

I really have no word to describe this situation
I just came out of a Frontline where there is one player deliberately telling entire Alliance not to use emote on dead body and saying it is against the policy.
Yet when match end, this guy's performance is 2-2 on a dps job and total damage output is below average by 25% margin.
Talking about the irony

I am not so sure why people spread myth about people get banned for using emote on Frontline when there is literally no evidence GM will do that
It is just merely people spit statement on this forum with no way for anyone to verify it is true or not. (Deadpoll's educational wish?)

[Archeron]

I really have no word to describe this situation
I just came out of a Frontline where there is one player deliberately telling entire Alliance not to use emote on dead body and saying it is against the policy.
Yet when match end, this guy's performance is 2-2 on a dps job and total damage output is below average by 25% margin.
Talking about the irony

I am not so sure why people spread myth about people get banned for using emote on Frontline when there is literally no evidence GM will do that
It is just merely people spit statement on this forum with no way for anyone to verify it is true or not. (Deadpoll's educational wish?)

Prohibited Activities, literally written into the terms of service. Perhaps you are living "Deadpolls" dream yourself. Doesn't mean I'm not going to taunt on the bodies of obnoxious players though.

Mocking or ridiculing another player who has been knocked out by using emotes (such as laugh), jumping, or using items (such as fireworks) on top of their character's body. If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

[Divinemights]

I highly doubt GM will enforce every report.
Even that is the case, I thought now is widely accepted between veterans that to use potion on the body you knock out (even you are full HP) is and as tea bagging or victory claim.
Good luck reporting that