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    Andevom Vonskivaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    i mean rez tax in the sense that rdm and smn both have lower dps compared to blm and pct due to them having a rez
    If you're in a situation where you need the PLD to raise, you shouldn't be too worried about your DPS numbers.
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    Alyko Cautes
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    Only WHMs had raises in combat. Cross-class raise was a CNJ action and was practically useless.

    PLDs having raise isn't wholly unprecedented though. In FFXI they get it at Lv.50 and they can cast it any time. It's situationally useful but it takes a long time to cast and costs a ton of MP.
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    Maiko Raines
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyko View Post
    Only WHMs had raises in combat. Cross-class raise was a CNJ action and was practically useless.

    PLDs having raise isn't wholly unprecedented though. In FFXI they get it at Lv.50 and they can cast it any time. It's situationally useful but it takes a long time to cast and costs a ton of MP.
    If you're casting it outside of combat in XIV - again, MP consumption be damned as it regenerates in no time. In combat, however, we have a rotation that restores MP and does damage at the same time.
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Sigh, who gave them the idea to remove raise from rdm and smn...
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    Connor Whelan
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    Pretty sure Paladins had combat Raise in 1.0 (the WHM trait was introduced in 2.0 I think) but that was essentially a different game lol.

    Frankly I don’t see the problem with Paladins having a costly Raise, under one condition , which is that content would need to be more difficult than it is now .

    I mean, people keep saying ‘we can’t have difficulty because if healer dies it’s joever’, but that can easily be remedied by increasing the available of Raise. Every tank/practically ever dps already has party wide heals and mitigations, so if they gave more jobs Raise they could easily raise the difficulty of general content, as there’s be more ways to save the party. Currently it’s just ‘ignore party, solo boss as tank, profit’ lol
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    While we're at it, give bards back the healer LB3. All of their other utility has been stripped out or reduced to negligible levels, given them something unique.
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    Holo Wisewolf
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    While we're at it, give bards back the healer LB3. All of their other utility has been stripped out or reduced to negligible levels, given them something unique.
    I'd rather Warden's Paeon have a smaller, or even no cooldown, tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    While we're at it, give bards back the healer LB3. All of their other utility has been stripped out or reduced to negligible levels, given them something unique.
    I would genuinely love this, it infuriates me when the party dies and I’m a Bard literally just standing there playing the flute with tears in my eyes. I have lived the meme but I remember a time when we could actually help lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    I would genuinely love this, it infuriates me when the party dies and I’m a Bard literally just standing there playing the flute with tears in my eyes. I have lived the meme but I remember a time when we could actually help lol
    It would also prevent BRDs from using the LB3 on single targets in parties with a melee, so please, bring it back.
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    Xiel Naweh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    I would genuinely love this, it infuriates me when the party dies and I’m a Bard literally just standing there playing the flute with tears in my eyes. I have lived the meme but I remember a time when we could actually help lol
    -Cries in lost Refresh when my healers needed the MP for Raises-

    I'm honestly down to get the Healer LB3. Would finally give this class something that separates it from being the middle child of the rDPS role.
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