Bring back Raise for Paladins

[MaikoRaines]

Since we're entertaining silly notions with 680+ pages, I may as well throw my own brand of crazy into the ring which, wasn't so crazy at the time they had it and probably makes more sense to have it nowadays than not.

Give Paladin's their raise back.

I can already hear the MT Paladin's groaning - please, unclutch your pearls and stay with me on this one.

Mind you, if you are MTing, Raise isn't gonna be possible. Situational though? Yes - 24 or 8-man dungeons, HoH, POTD etc where you're not the MT, or when quickly weave a raise in when all healers are down.

And since Summoners are most likely going to lose Raise for 8.0, A class which has traditionally had a raise spell, Paladin makes the most sense to carry the torch just having the option. Not saying it needs to be part of a kit, but a "Wholly Shit" button. No need for Swiftcast. Just... "In case of emergency, break glass" situations.

Edit: This isn't a troll post nor is it designed to be one. Paladin having a slow raise option on hand isn't a bad idea. It wouldn't be a requirement for main stream dungeons, savages etc.

[Turtledeluxe]

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Oh I wasn't up to date on the SMN thing. Hmm. Seems like would contradict the alleged reasoning for removing res from SMN.

Which I think is hilarious...they are concerned with homogeny and blaming SMN res? Yeah that's a huge problem. SMN res. *rolls eyes*

[grinkdaboy]

do you really want a tank with a rez tax like rdm and smn

[MaikoRaines]

ARR 2.0 people will remember we had raises as Paladins. We didn't have anywhere near the optional content we do today. It would come in hand now in some situations.

[MaikoRaines]

do you really want a tank with a rez tax like rdm and smn

Read "situational" - if you're worried about mobility, as I said in the beginning, think of it when you're in between fights or when there's a quick break between mechanics where you're not the MT. Otherwise, you wouldn't need to be bothered. HOH and POTD situations where a healer dies and you can't find that raise statue - that's where it'd come in just as an example.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

ARR 2.0 people will remember we had raises as Paladins. We didn't have anywhere near the optional content we do today. It would come in hand now in some situations.

And everyone seems to forget that it was cross-classed from cnj, and combat raising was a trait exclusive to cnj. Pld could never raise on combat. It was as useful as a Phoenix down.

[grinkdaboy]

Read "situational" - if you're worried about mobility, as I said in the beginning, think of it when you're in between fights or when there's a quick break between mechanics where you're not the MT. Otherwise, you wouldn't need to be bothered. HOH and POTD situations where a healer dies and you can't find that raise statue - that's where it'd come in just as an example.

i mean rez tax in the sense that rdm and smn both have lower dps compared to blm and pct due to them having a rez

[Andevom]

i mean rez tax in the sense that rdm and smn both have lower dps compared to blm and pct due to them having a rez

If you're in a situation where you need the PLD to raise, you shouldn't be too worried about your DPS numbers.

[MaikoRaines]

And everyone seems to forget that it was cross-classed from cnj, and combat raising was a trait exclusive to cnj. Pld could never raise on combat. It was as useful as a Phoenix down.

You're right. I actually did forget about that. But that usefulness would come in handy post battle in a place like HOH or POTD - and there wouldn't be anything really wrong with having it as a cast option today. If you can get away with popping off a raise in a 24 man when you're not the MT then why not?

i mean rez tax in the sense that rdm and smn both have lower dps compared to blm and pct due to them having a rez

That tax would be dependent on swiftcast or dualcast abilities as per speculation, yes?

[Alyko]

Only WHMs had raises in combat. Cross-class raise was a CNJ action and was practically useless.

PLDs having raise isn't wholly unprecedented though. In FFXI they get it at Lv.50 and they can cast it any time. It's situationally useful but it takes a long time to cast and costs a ton of MP.