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  1. #61
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    Striker44's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwadTheFrog View Post
    I have no need or desire to go hunting on your post history.
    So, you're approach is to accuse someone of something, and then just turn and hide when you get called out? Good to know. If you made a specific accusation like you did (straw man fallacy), you shouldn't need to "go hunting" through someone's post history, there should be something specific you remember that you can point to. Thank you for the tacit acknowledgment that you made a false accusation against me which you couldn't support.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    You need to subject yourself to the same standard as you did to others.
    I do.

    Here, you rant by making generalization in a disrepectful way
    If the truth is disrespectful, what does that really suggest? (For the record, my specific comment you then quoted was primarily directed at when I pointed out I've needed to heal more in DT content - as have many others - only to have the very first response be someone insinuating that somehow means I must be bad at healing and racking up likes for saying it. Compare it to the thread where someone complained about the graphics change, and when one of the people who likes the new graphics responded by saying they found "joy" in the other person's frustration, their comment wasn't "liked" and was immediately called out by several other people who likewise enjoy the new changes telling them they were out of line.)

    Then you threw a fit when people generalized the opposite side to serve as counterpoint

    They were not lying though. Here are the examples showing the hypocrisy in your narrative.
    I'm seeing no source on the first (probably because it didn't happen), and I'm genuinely confused where this is any "hypocrisy" in what you subsequently quoted as support.

    I think you should step away from the forum for some time. If this forum upsets you so much, might I suggest you to frequent a more positive medium such as Reddit?
    I appreciate your "concern". I mainly swing by here when waiting in a queue for something in-game or just having a few minutes to pass the time. I certainly wouldn't want to think you were trying to encourage one of the few people willing to say how they enjoy the game to keep quiet.

    The reality is that many people have engaged with you in good faith in the past.
    I would challenge the idea of "many." What I see "many" people do around here is conflate their personal, subjective opinions with objective facts, and then belittle anyone who dares to "disagree" (aka simply have a different opinion). Of the times a good faith conversation actually occurs, I always engage just as respectfully. Basically, I give everyone the benefit of the doubt to start, but then respond in kind. If someone wants to get snippy with me, I have no particular reason to maintain the "high ground" and am happy to respond in kind.

    Has it ever occured to you that the biggest echo chamber in the game is the Silent Majority you keep conjuring up in your posts?
    What? (Again, for the record, what I always point out is that we don't know what the silent majority believes. That's usually my main point, that only the dev team has that information.)


    Positive threads getting drawned fast is hardly the the fault of negativity.
    Umm, yes, it is. When someone specifically says "there's so many negative posts around here, let's just have at least this one place where people can post about things they enjoy", there is zero reason for that thread to ever go negative. At best, if it's just not as "interesting" as negative threads, it should simply fade into obscurity. Getting drowned out by people who can't stand seeing even that one positive post is absolutely the fault of negativity.

    So, where this goes. This is the first thread where I specifically challenged two people to directly respond to a claim they made. After a few days, one of them is yet to be seen, and the other refused (aka couldn't). If you're wondering why I don't actively follow every single post I make to see who responds, well, there's part of the reason why (and we can add another post being that I value my mental health, perhaps ?).

    For what it's worth, though, most of the comments I make have no reason to follow up on. Practically everything I post is my personal opinion, and I openly describe it as such. There's simply nothing to be "challenged" to begin with. Making things up to have a reason to challenge someone just isn't worth the time to bother with.
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    Last edited by Striker44; 07-15-2024 at 04:40 AM. Reason: Added last quote and conclusion.

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
    Thinking in terms of game design, I've been seeing a lot of talk about things that the FFXIV Devs seems to have forgotten, or just dropped, and the playerbase growing so used to it that they're now pushing for that direction for this game's design.

    1. Just Let Them Play - Link

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    2. Let Them Skip - Link

    [...]

    3. Echo Chambers - Link

    [...]

    If anyone has more examples, pleased do share. I think it's important to talk and be reminded about good game design to better our games.
    First of all, Sakurai is not the guidebook of game design. You are doing here an argument from authority, a fallacy. Sakurai have only worked on Kirby and Smash Bros. He is certainly not a reference for all genres.

    Then, did you even watch the videos? In the second one, at no point he states the player should be able to skip the whole story in one go, which is actually something FF XIV already allows, for a fee though. He talks about skipping and pausing cutscenes, besides useless splash screens. He is completely right about that, this is something I learned when studying game design, but FF XIV already does that for the most part. I would also add that he mentions that online games differ!
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    Last edited by Kyragos; 07-15-2024 at 05:10 AM.

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