Viper is not hard, and does not need simplification.

[Melethron123]

they're changing it because it was too busy, not because it was hard

[hunter2]

they're changing it because it was too busy, not because it was hard

Isn't busyness the whole point of the job? What identity does it have if not high apm? I've only seen praise for the apm amongst my friends so I'm baffled that they think this is an issue worth addressing.

[Gilihere]

As a ninja main I love how busy viper isn't, you have more than enough time to press button, move, press other button.
It could use a self mitigation button like all the other melee, something like arcane crest or tengetsu would be nice

[Melethron123]

Isn't busyness the whole point of the job? What identity does it have if not high apm? I've only seen praise for the apm amongst my friends so I'm baffled that they think this is an issue worth addressing.

apparently not
it has the identity of dual-wielding swords and wearing leather (and we all know that glam is the real endgame)

[Pentacus]

Isn't busyness the whole point of the job? What identity does it have if not high apm? I've only seen praise for the apm amongst my friends so I'm baffled that they think this is an issue worth addressing.

I’m guessing that the “busyness” is referring to the Coil combo, where you have two positionals and four oGCDs to do within the space of two GCDs happening very frequently, I can’t immediately recall any other situation where you have to do two subsequent positionals, let alone while double weaving, so the speed that they changed this may imply that “positional (double weave) > positional” goes against an internal design guideline and feedback made them aware of that, rather than directly acting on feedback

[Powercow]

I can’t immediately recall any other situation where you have to do two subsequent positionals, let alone while double weaving,

sigh
I miss Stormblood Monk.

[Router]

I’m guessing that the “busyness” is referring to the Coil combo, where you have two positionals and four oGCDs to do within the space of two GCDs happening very frequently, I can’t immediately recall any other situation where you have to do two subsequent positionals, let alone while double weaving, so the speed that they changed this may imply that “positional (double weave) > positional” goes against an internal design guideline and feedback made them aware of that, rather than directly acting on feedback

DRG had back-to-back positionals until DT and would also double weave during it in their burst. If there's an internal design guideline against it, then it was added very recently.

[KDSilver]

they're changing it because it was too busy, not because it was hard

That's the point of the job.

[Barachim]

There's nothing too busy about it. It's one of the most simple melee DPS classes to play at the moment.

I admit that initially it took me a moment to figure out my hotbar, but that comes with every new job. But once I figured out the pretty much perfect set up, my 2 hotbars have an open space left.

[Router]

they're changing it because it was too busy, not because it was hard

It has the same APM as NIN, and NIN has more complex burst. Where's my NIN simplification?