You pull you tank question.

[Ruruura]

Putting aside the blatant disingenuous tone of your post, the current topic here is about bad tanks.

That is my point though, that "Tanks bad m i right?" has been "the current topic" a little too often, some days over several threads all at the same time, across not only this forum but Reddit and now Twitter/X as well.
"Tanks bad lmao" is becoming the new "dragoon floor tanks" FFXIV meme and everyone wants in on it, which has a clear effect on how people behave around tanks in-game.

I never had issues with DPS wanting to pull until YPYT and the bad tank meme began to be a daily discourse, and now it feels like every single DPS i run into is competing with each other to see who is the one to do it.
I´ve had DPS bringing up arguments or complain about "party authority" before i even said anyhing or reacted to their pulling, and it´s getting old.

Even you could not stop yourself from pulling the "Tanks are not special" card when i never implied we were lmao

As i said, "tank bad" or "tank ego" is just the newest meme and y´all want a piece of it, and it´s getting old.

[Galvuu]

That is my point though, that "Tanks bad m i right?" has been "the current topic" a little too often, some days over several threads all at the same time, across not only this forum but Reddit and now Twitter/X as well.
"Tanks bad lmao" is becoming the new "dragoon floor tanks" FFXIV meme and everyone wants in on it, which has a clear effect on how people behave around tanks in-game.

I guess you missed a lot of people torching healers, between the healer strike thing and their general dissatisfaction then? Be it Reddit or content creators, making healers the butt-end of a joke has been on a particularly high level lately.
But yea, poor tanks. You even mention the "lol foor DRG" meme which still exists in some capacity today after a decade.
Every role has bad players. Every role will be on the receiving end of sarcastic remarks. It's always been that way. Every role matters in high-end content, and no role matters in everything else.

This whole discussion is, honestly, dull. You have a number of tools at your disposal, depending on role and job. Given a situation, you should utilize all of them to clear the content as quickly as possible. Some people won't, but a good player will.
If someone's being disruptive and making clearing impossible, you have a vote kick function for that. If someone is struggling and asks for help- or seems open to it- you can go out of your way to offer advice (though you have no obligation to). If they take it, great. If they don't take it, or don't want it to begin with, you nod, do your best, finish the 20 minutes roulette and go on about your way knowing you did all that you could as a good player.
That's all there is to it. Imagine if me or my healers threw a fit every time I rip aggro on a trash pack in an Expert dungeon as Pictomancer because I do half a million aoe damage in 4s. Who cares, I pop my barrier, my healer throws a shield on me, I stay close to the tank and I trust him to regain aggro. Even if he doesn't, it's fine, at worst I die and just release and rejoin. Same when I heal, ok you died to a mechanic, or you got hit by burns in ex1, I got you fam, I'll try my best to keep you alive so we don't lose raid damage. People are more concerned about proving a point of who's right, or who leads, or whose pace it is instead of grabbing the tools they have to bring the duty to swift completion. Just do your best, really.

snip.

I don't think this is worth replying to, but like... you're not that guy. I know you think you're some sort of ascended XIV player, but none of us are that special.

[VoidsentStatus]

Imagine if me or my healers threw a fit every time I rip aggro on a trash pack in an Expert dungeon as Pictomancer because I do half a million aoe damage in 4s. Who cares,

Square cares.