You pull you tank question.

[Thurmnmurmn]

I'll be honest I find YPYT a bit too extreme. But I do give them a little scare here and there.
My whole point is about DPS who pull ahead because they can't or won't wait 1 milisecond. Especially if they are doing this deliberately.

It's basically a difference in mentality.
A lot of people find dungeon content to be boring so they want to get it done with asap. Pulling ahead does help speed it up so it can be viewed as them being helpful.
Tanks can communicate if they don't want that but YPYT as you said, is way too extreme and def not the answer.

[TBerry]

It's basically a difference in mentality.
A lot of people find dungeon content to be boring so they want to get it done with asap. Pulling ahead does help speed it up so it can be viewed as them being helpful.
Tanks can communicate if they don't want that but YPYT as you said, is way too extreme and def not the answer.

Nuke 'em while the tank runs ahead, try to thin them out.

... did it really never occur to any of you that the mobs die faster the less HP is left?

[Thurmnmurmn]

Nuke 'em while the tank runs ahead, try to thin them out.

... did it really never occur to any of you that the mobs die faster the less HP is left?

You can DPS as the tank is running yes but the time to kill the 2nd group will still be the same if we kill them all together or not.
So no, it doesn't really speed it much if at all. Unless a mob on the first group has way more HP than the other ones anyways.

[BigCheez]

You can DPS as the tank is running yes but the time to kill the 2nd group will still be the same if we kill them all together or not.
So no, it doesn't really speed it much if at all. Unless a mob on the first group has way more HP than the other ones anyways.

Half of the pull will die faster, making incoming damage much lighter, saving the tank/healer resources and letting the healer pump more.

[Thurmnmurmn]

Half of the pull will die faster, making incoming damage much lighter, saving the tank/healer resources and letting the healer pump more.

Very true. I was only talking about speed however.

[Thurmnmurmn]

Sorry about the second post. Mobile is dumb and doesn't let me edit.
Healers in most cases can't pump more since most of their heals they use are ogcds.

[TBerry]

Sorry about the second post. Mobile is dumb and doesn't let me edit.
Healers in most cases can't pump more since most of their heals they use are ogcds.

Mobiles do be like that sometimes.
As fior healers, not much experience in that field. Got WHM lvl 38 but that's it.

[Basteala]

God I haven't heard this since WoW days. This would be like me refusing to DPS in a pull whenever a tank lost aggro. People need to give it a rest.

[Cortawraith]

that's what I meant with the issue stemming from the middle ages of MMO's ^^
It's an old obsolete mindset that aims only to punish ppl who defy the tanks ego-trip.
Like I already stated, I don't mind who is pulling. It can even be a help sometimes. (especially my healers may pull whenever and whatever they want, though this rarely happens since I'm pulling as much as I can if the party composition seems right)

[KisaiTenshi]

that's what I meant with the issue stemming from the middle ages of MMO's ^^
It's an old obsolete mindset that aims only to punish ppl who defy the tanks ego-trip.
Like I already stated, I don't mind who is pulling. It can even be a help sometimes. (especially my healers may pull whenever and whatever they want, though this rarely happens since I'm pulling as much as I can if the party composition seems right)

If you are doing PUG content, the polite thing is to let the tank lead. If you're doing content with players you know the play style of then go ahead and do what they're going to be okay with.

The problem always comes back to the entire "Tank presses the gas, Healer presses the brakes" way the dungeons work. A tank can attempt to pull everything, but if the healer isn't literately right behind them, them they are going to die if they miss one of their mitigations. Meanwhile, the Healer sets the pull size, which is typically "1 or 2" depending on the healer. It's usually easier to pull more with a WHM, because they can fire off Benediction, and Holy, which buys enough time to let the DPS drop their own nukes on it. The other healers can not do this.

The only player that should be pulling the boss is the main tank.