You pull you tank question.

[Lonely_Lily]

"I just want to make it easier on..." NO. It's max level / high level. If they are so devoid of intelligence or the will to get better BY LEVEL 100...they need to do something else. This is a video game. Video games are meant to have some modicum of challenge.

Everyone can have his own opinion about how to play the game, in that regard, I totally desagree with your way of thinking, especially when a few sentence later you speak about being a "team player".
You seems to desagree but I truly think that adapting your gameplay to your team to make it easer to everyone else, if you are willing to or if you can, is the best way to play. At least, it's MY best way to play and I don't care if we are at content level 30, 50 or 100.

YPYT is not a answer to every dps or healer pulling, I am not even sure it's an acceptable answer at all. YPYT is an answer, among many, from miscomunication, impatient people -sometimes jerks - and some sort of reccurent behavior.
You cannot talk about "egoing" for every situation.

And the most important thing, "Team play" goes both ways.

[DaveFishnomer]

Lot of words with little to no substance

Not that I'm against W2W but a lot of healers cant handle that, who are you to tell people not to queue to normal content because they cant W2W?

I always make a point of asking the healer what pull size they want, this is not savage, chill, and you are talking about people having ego lol.

[Conando]

And I'm explaining to you why DPS shouldn't "chill with their rotation".

If they're pulling aggro, throw your ranged attack/voke behind you while you're running between packs. Staying at the top of the enmity table for a tank isn't difficult in the current version of the game and you absolutely don't need people to sandbag their damage so that you can do so.

What part of "they're out of range" don't you get. Whatever Pictos are upto, they're back in Narnia despite apparently being impatient enough to not wait for a pack to be set up for AoE. But it's a moot point now anyway since they increased the aggro generation on AoE combos because of this.

[LilyPendragon]

YPYT is absolutely reportable as the tank is essentially using game mechanics to kill you

[NailBach]

YPYT is absolutely reportable as the tank is essentially using game mechanics to kill you

i don't get the YPYT mentality anyways, if is see a green square or yellow triangle i have to make it red.

[LilyPendragon]

i don't get the YPYT mentality anyways, if is see a green square or yellow triangle i have to make it red.

Because it conflicts with their main character syndrome. Tanking dungeons in this game has been completely braindead since Shadowbringers, literally press W, AoE and mitigate, yet some tanks seem to see a DPS tagging a mob before them as some sort of affront to them personally. There is no aggro to manage, and no difficulty in managing pulls at all, it's by far the easiest role in dungeon content. YPYT players get kicked without mercy if I encounter them in DF and get the opportunity.

No player is under any obligation to carry your sweaty ass to a new record time.

They are under an obligation to do their damn job though, which is to hold aggro. Their role is 'tank' not 'puller'. Tanks pulling is simply convention. The only role that should have any say in the size of the pull should be the healer, as they're the only ones who are going to have an easier or harder time depending on pull size, funnily enough, I don't see many healers babyraging about doing big pulls. The tank does the same whether it's 3 or 300 mobs. They press W, AoE and mitigate.

[Arrius]

Because it conflicts with their main character syndrome. Tanking dungeons in this game has been completely braindead since Shadowbringers,[...]

Holminster Switch, Dohn Meg and Malika's Well were quite challenging upon release, since the enemies were either rather numerous, had extra attacks between auto-attacks or/and came with some extra mechanics (interrupting the 'watering' of the plants at the first group of Dohn Meg, for instance), so proper mitigation cooldown management was required.

[TBerry]

They are under an obligation to do their damn job though, which is to hold aggro. Their role is 'tank' not 'puller'.

I didn't know Kick Streamer is a role too.

[RatCopter]

It is a question of common courtesy. If the tank is moving at a reasonable pace, then there is no reason for you to move ahead of him to pull. To do so is bad manners. If he is moving slow, use your words and ask him to speed up.
On the other side of that, tanks should understand that, sooner or later, you're gonna run into these kinds of assholes for whom common courtesy is an utterly foreign concept, and it's not your job to "punish" them. That's pure ego talking. Just roll your eyes and let it go.
You trying to get them banned for over-reacting to your bad manners is equally as egotistical, especially if you're the kind of person who hits sprint every pull to try and bait the tank into reacting this way.

At the end of the day, you can't control what other people do. If you don't like it, stick to trusts or tank yourself.

[Malthir]

It is a question of common courtesy. If the tank is moving at a reasonable pace, then there is no reason for you to move ahead of him to pull. To do so is bad manners. If he is moving slow, use your words and ask him to speed up.
On the other side of that, tanks should understand that, sooner or later, you're gonna run into these kinds of assholes for whom common courtesy is an utterly foreign concept, and it's not your job to "punish" them. That's pure ego talking. Just roll your eyes and let it go.
You trying to get them banned for over-reacting to your bad manners is equally as egotistical, especially if you're the kind of person who hits sprint every pull to try and bait the tank into reacting this way.

At the end of the day, you can't control what other people do. If you don't like it, stick to trusts or tank yourself.

As I said before in the post, It's understandable if it's maybe at the start of the pull, or if you've spoke before. But alot of what I've seen whenever I don't w2w (when healer is struggling) is mid way through a fight with a pack DPS will grab the next pack to add it to the fight, that's where alot of the problems come in, they haven't asked anyone anything, they don't have any idea what the tank and healer CD's are looking like. In that situation, you pull you tank until both the healer and I are ready to take that off you, your health bar is now a shield bar for the tank. Melee DPS has always been the most selfish and ego driven role in MMO's, I think in FF14 the issue is primarily the melee DPS don't really have a complex rotation or play style either so to make themselves feel important they have to be about doing everything super fast big pulls etc, they don't ask anyone else in the group, they don't comm at all most of the time.