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    Riguel's Avatar
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    Zeth Ryder
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    White Mage Lv 100

    Feedback: Alexandria Dungeon needs adjustments

    This is my own personal feedback as someone who has been healing since 1.0 as a white mage. I've noticed the big ramp up in dungeon difficulty and mechanics, some of them have been enjoyable, others not so much( lvl 95 final boss I'm looking at you). But I've been able to work with my FC and learn the mechanics and progress the story and dungeon. However on the final dungeon, Alexandria, making to the first boss. We died, continuously, over and over and over again. After about 20 different tries and dying each time, we threw in the towel. I don't mind learning mechanics and trying to get better but this is beyond my abilities as a healer. We understand the mechanics of it however there is not enough time to get between locations. Not everyone's reaction time is as quick others nor can you expect them to be. There is not enough pause for a healer to even mitigate the errors in the party. Upon dying, I lose all my lily stacks which gives me only tetragrammaton and benediction for instant heals in case of emergencies during these constant runs to the circles and avoiding the crosses and the bosses big conal attack. I can't try to save people with heals unless my lily's are up during these runs. I can't even use swift case because I have to save it in case someone falls which was happening to our tank because even having a couple stacks, fully healed and a tank mitigation popped, it was one shotting him. This was our tank, geared up to what he could get at the level and stacked with materia. There is not enough down time between all that happening to even heal the party to survive a hit with stack markers coming right afterwards. As a casual player, I don't do much raiding, I have done some in the past but not something I've personally enjoyed doing but this gets to the point its alienating the casual audience, people with disabilities, slow reaction times, etc from even progressing. Maybe they need to bring back Hard mode dungeons and stick this in there and readjust the MSQ's dungeons so this isn't so bad. Something is off with this dungeon and it needs reworked. Eventually we did make it through the dungeon after trying it another day and a few tries but still, it needs adjusting.
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    Last edited by Riguel; 07-15-2024 at 04:41 AM.

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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    Sorry man, but there is nothing wrong with the dungeons, maybe you should try and finally learn to play the game after 10 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    Sorry man, but there is nothing wrong with the dungeons, maybe you should try and finally learn to play the game after 10 years.
    Thank you for your helpful advice, have a nice day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riguel View Post
    Thank you for your helpful advice, have a nice day!
    You're Welcome, since i don't know what you are doing wrong, i can't give better advice, maybe use other spells than Cure 1 to heal the party.

    (If you are not spamming Glare, you(or someone else) are doing something wrong)
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    Last edited by Arohk; 07-10-2024 at 08:32 PM.

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    Serphie Nox
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    this remind me of a white mage in zodiark spamming holy because it was light Magic xD
    i agree learn to play the game now
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    Kasari Silvermoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    Sorry man, but there is nothing wrong with the dungeons, maybe you should try and finally learn to play the game after 10 years.
    You have to admit the first boss in Alexandria is disproportionally hard compared to every other boss in every other dungeon. Given they can read data on wipes I seriously doubt it's gonna remain in its current state no matter what anyone says for or against it.
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    Haru Yoshino
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_Silvermoon View Post
    You have to admit the first boss in Alexandria is disproportionally hard compared to every other boss in every other dungeon. Given they can read data on wipes I seriously doubt it's gonna remain in its current state no matter what anyone says for or against it.
    I actually can't admit this. It requires some observation. You can't just throw yourself at it and expect to win, which is completely fine. The moment you understand that you prioritize dodging +s and Os first and then dodging the AOE, coupled with the knowledge that it is safe to move once the orange goes away, there's nothing hard about that fight at all. I'd argue that the first boss of Origenics is harder when he's slapping those poison drums just due to how fast the AOEs spawn and go off. Requires more reaction. The bosses in Alexandria just require you to pay attention to the order that things are happening in and remember that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_Silvermoon View Post
    You have to admit the first boss in Alexandria is disproportionally hard compared to every other boss in every other dungeon. Given they can read data on wipes I seriously doubt it's gonna remain in its current state no matter what anyone says for or against it.
    What's hard about

    Circle = Donut

    Cross = Cross AOE
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riguel View Post
    Upon dying, I lose all my lily stacks which gives me only tetragrammaton and benediction for instant heals
    Switfcast recast time has been reduced to 40s so that it become a more flexible skill.
    If you have nothing else than a swiftcast Medica III or a Swiftcast Cure III, you'll prefer using Swiftcast to heal than for raise

    These's no death every 40s.

    Besides, if it's an absolute nightmare, you still have presence of mind to hardcast it faster.

    Lilybell exists. Double pressing it upon using it allow for a 1000 potency aoe heal.

    Asylum boost your healing capacity for 10%.

    Temperence mitigate damage and allow you to use Divine Caress, a shield + regen.

    You have so many option to cover mistake, even for yourself (Aquaveil + divine benison to increase your survivability).

    If you can't save everyone, at least save yourself and the tank, do mechanics first and then raise your dps.

    If you're willing to get better as you say, I can guanrantee you than even with mistake, a lvl 100 whm have more than enough healing tool to survive and cover party mistakes.

    You just have priority in your heal plan to establish.
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    Zeth Ryder
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    I have been using everything you mentioned in my tool kit and pacing it for the next run as the cooldown timer for some of it isn't back up by the second time of + and o's run through. Problem is dps and tanks are struggling with the runs between the + & o's, and the bosses conal attack happening at the same time. If the tank dies, the tank buster takes out one of the dps while I'm trying to rez the tank, heal myself and the remaining dps. Then the boss is targeting me while I'm trying to heal myself and the tank, however the tank cannot get the boss's hate back even with provoke until I eventually die. Then there is scenario the tank and I survives through the mechanics but the dps don't, then I'm left to stack by myself after rezzing one of the dps which will instant kill us regardless, even with shields to mitigate. I'm usually the last one dead during these tries. The problem is I can only do so much if people are struggling to react to the mechanics fast enough and the boss doesn't even give much of a breathier between its mechanics to recover.
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