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  1. #1
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    Khryseis_Astra's Avatar
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    Khryseis Astra
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    They should just add the rejected au ra concepts as another race.

    Ooo! Give me the one top left on the dark gray, with that hairstyle too! Love the dragon wings in place of horns!

    I’ve always liked the idea of adding more clans to the existing races for more variety in character creator… that one would take care of Au Ra! Give us more clans, and while they’re at it, fix Hrothgar & Viera headgear.
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Every single MMO that adds races overtime is not ruined for it. In fact, they are often better for the additions.
    Most MMO's class-lock a race and don't have to design 1000 pieces of gear for it.

    The easiest path to add "new races" is in fact to repurpose some existing ones (Loporitts, Moogles, etc) that already have the ability to use all the weapons, and just don't give the players any option to customize.

    So if you really really really want to play a loporitt, you get to tint the fur and change the eye color, but you only have 6 clothing gear choices, and they all reflect the job role. The "humanoid" gear won't fit them. If you want to play a moogle (Which perpetually flies, I'll add) there is no gear at all, they only have hats representing their job role when they don't have a weapon out (see King Moggle Mog.)

    I know some people would want to play the Namazu or the Lupin, but same as the Loporitts, they could change the color of the eyes and the fur/skin but there's very limited gear that they can wear.

    This is the only way to add races without having to add 1000 pieces of unique gear to the game per race. If it's humanoid-enough, you can pretty much find a way to make a race wear the existing Miqo'te-AuRa-Hyur gear.

    As for, is there enough support to get any of these races playable? Probably not. It might be worth investigating as an April Fools joke to be able to have transformation pots that turn your character into one of the beast tribe races for an hour, and see how well people accept it, but I think other than the Loporitts (being close enough to lalafell's in size,) there's not really that much actual interest in having any of the beast tribes as races you could actually create and start the game with. I mention the Loporitts in this case because their entire reason for being is undone by the end of endwalker, so it actually would make sense to start seeing them everywhere. Where as the Moogles or the Namazu pretty much exist as joke tribes to antagonize the player.
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    Ayalu's Avatar
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    Ayalu Jeji
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I mean moogles are just a Final Fantasy iconic Race.
    But if they would like to add them as player race I would assume they introduced the Ivalice version of them as there they have been a normal also playable race at times and is a bit more humanoid.
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    Conant Sivrha
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    Siren
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    As things stand now, I think the addition of more races would be counterproductive.

    Many pieces of headgear don’t display on viera and hrothgar character models. Hrothgar hairstyles are extremely restricted—especially female hrothgar, who have five hairstyles per face, including two pairs of almost identical variants. Gear design has taken 10 steps backwards in the way it accounts for racial traits (or, nowadays, doesn’t account for racial traits), even for old races. Hats and helmets used to accommodate non-human ears with holes or pockets for those ears, but newer hats and helmets just remove non-human ears. And after many years of tails being left to clip through gear, we’re starting to get gear that simply removes them, which is even worse.

    The races we already have aren’t being handled properly, with newer races having some of the most glaring issues. I’d like to see this trend reversed before we get any new races, at least, so those new races won’t come out horribly bungled.
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    Katarina Malaguld
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    Shiva
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    Machinist Lv 100
    They cannot even give us proper character options. The stupidity of not being allowed to wear hats aside, there is just no chance that someone can be truly creative in the character editor. Literally why is it when you select a face that you are bound to 4-5 potentially ugly looking eyes and lips instead of having the face determine the shape and then give us all options from across all faces. i.e. a face 4 female Au Ra keeps her forward facing curved horns but otherwise they can get face 1 lips, face 2 eyes and face 3 nose. Do the same example for every single face of every single race and gender and you already open up so much more fine options. Of course some will be near duplicates but they could replace that by simply adding more different options, period. The hair colour selection looks to me like it hasn't been updated since ARR (correct me if I am wrong, it just feels that way), and the lip and tattoo colour selection is downright insulting for the year 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    I don't object to adding more races, but finish the last two first.
    Maybe in 8.0, for now they need to spend an entire expansion turning glasses and masks into facewear, this will take up years of development.
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    Fishing is my religion and Lancetfish is my Satan.
    You don't have to spend months telling the world that you aren't gonna play that role.

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    Khloe Entialpoh
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    I'd rather have more added to the existing races- like half-elf ears, the garlean eye, new faces, eyebrow options for highlander males, racial specific viera hairstyles & more hrothgal hairstyles (give them wuk lamats hair)
    More head jewels & tattoos.
    More than 1 face-paint slot. I'd like to wear eyeshadow & blush.
    It's time to update the character creation.

    As far as a new race, it'd need to be a small race- all we have are large races except lalas
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    Dusty Two
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    Behemoth
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I think another small race wouldn't go amiss. Someone in this thread mentioned Burmecians, so having a small rodent-like race would be neat.

    That said, I think we should first focus on giving more customization to the current races (including putting hats on Viera and Hrothgar) before committing to a new race. I think people would better appreciate being able to alter the body shape such as having a waist slider, shoulder width slider, hip slider (and the ever requested butt slider with it) as well as separating torso height and leg height. Heck I'd also add a head slider so that the smaller heads of Elezen can be a little bigger. Couple that with more options within the settings we do have such as more face types, eye shapes, mouth shapes, nose shapes, eyebrows, and multiple face paints and I think we'd be good. Also having the muscle slider be universal and actually adding muscle geometry rather than just toning.
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    Shibi's Avatar
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Please, no more furries.

    After 10 levels of Wuk, I am scared of getting distemper.
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    Mikh'ir Bajhiri
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    Midgardsormr
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    No thanks, they can't even finish the ones they have.
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    #healerstrike

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    Teria Redfield
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    Ultros
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Absolutely not.
    We need a total overhaul for the character creator.
    Not only do they need to go back and fix hrothgar and viera to make head gear work and allow much more freedom to hrothgar's hair choices, but it's criminal that auri horns are STILL linked to face shape.
    We need far more customization options for every race. More faces. More face paints and the ability to use more than one at a time. Better options for muscle definition. Scars. Tattoos. More tails for the races that have them. The fabled butt slider. Body paints, tattoos, and scars. Finger and toenail coloring now they we kinda sort of have them. Better and more facial hair options, including eyebrows. Speaking of... Freakin' eyebrows for highlander males (Shaving eyebrows is a cultural thing, not a genetic trait). And just more race specific customization options in general. There is a lot they can do to improve what we already have before they even consider adding another new race.
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