About Wuk's strength [Ending spoilers]

[TheJamJam]

I've been trying to wrap my head around this.

Gulool and Kabool Ja Ja are literal rare specimens within the Mamool Ja tribe. You might aswell say they stand atop the food chain because of their DNA and body structure.

Notably noted multiple times is that Kabool's strength is compared to Gulool at times, so his strength is nothing to sneeze at. He blocked singlehandedly Wuk's attack with one hand without breaking a sweat and lifted the seal on Valigarmanda with a quite flashy attack.

Just to create indviduals like that, required thousands of birth sacrifices. So the condition behind their births explains their strength.

We also understand that while Koana does not have his strength, he has his smarts which is his main pillar. Physically we might say he's is the weakest.

What about Wuk then? What kind of heritage does Wuk have that she physically manages to surpass the Wol in one expansion by doing more damage for example against Sphene in the same fight? How can she suddenly suddenly block Sphene's attacks when not even a day ago, she was struggling against Kabool?

There's not a single logical explanation behind her sudden increase in strength, she doesn't wield any relics or actually had training wielding Dynamis. We're not even shown a single scene where the Wol trains her. I read the dialogue carefully but there's no hint of her having a special soul and she's been already around for her to be a reincarnated unsundered.

Moving on to her actual dad, a hrothgar living an average life but nothing really notable in regards his strength. The story even makes a point to show that some Mamool Ja fodder easily could take him hostage.

I just fail to see why they can't explain this.

[weebtext]

It's because she the avata- Dawnservant and you gotta deal with it!

[NotoriousQX]

Dynamis doesn't require training, that's the whole point. It's just an ambient force of nature that responds to emotion. It seemed pretty clear to me that in her fight with Bakool Ja Ja her strength of resolve was tapping into Dynamis. That's not sometime the WoL needs to explain to her, though, because the WoL was using Dynamis for years before even knowing it existed.

[NegativeS]

Dynamis doesn't require training, that's the whole point. It's just an ambient force of nature that responds to emotion.

Yeah, I also figured it was Dynamis being attracted to her sheer desire to prove herself against her peers/siblings, but...

If you interpret the Final Day fight dialogue as the Endsinger confirming our Limit Breaks are just a bunch of Dynamis, then what does it mean for us as WoLs if Wuk Sue was able to LB like 6 times in the span of a single fight?

[Boblawblah]

I'm not really a fan of using Dynamis as a reason for why someone is suddenly unstoppable. I feel it will lead to very lazy writing.

[NotoriousQX]

I think it just means that Wuk Lamat was really feeling it that day. The WoL gets to limit break three or four times in the 100 trial. I don't think it's a competition between us and her.

[TheJamJam]

Yeah, I also figured it was Dynamis being attracted to her sheer desire to prove herself against her peers/siblings, but...

If you interpret the Final Day fight dialogue as the Endsinger confirming our Limit Breaks are just a bunch of Dynamis, then what does it mean for us as WoLs if Wuk Sue was able to LB like 6 times in the span of a single fight?

Going by the logic that it could be based off desire, then Zoraal Ja should have been able to beat anyone, including the shade of Gulool Ja Ja because no one was so emotionally driven as him. Krile make's a note specifically about this multiple times.

[Oizen]

The power of the writer's self insert

[MikkoAkure]

Dynamis doesn't require training, that's the whole point. It's just an ambient force of nature that responds to emotion. It seemed pretty clear to me that in her fight with Bakool Ja Ja her strength of resolve was tapping into Dynamis. That's not sometime the WoL needs to explain to her, though, because the WoL was using Dynamis for years before even knowing it existed.

If you interpret the Final Day fight dialogue as the Endsinger confirming our Limit Breaks are just a bunch of Dynamis, then what does it mean for us as WoLs if Wuk Sue was able to LB like 6 times in the span of a single fight?

I don’t think dynamis has much of an effect outside Ultima Thule since aether is far more common on our world and pushes out dynamis.

The lore book already specifically calls out certain limit breaks as being powered by aether and some like the MCH’s have no reasonable way they could be dynamis. The final nail in the coffin is that our Ancient buddies can use limit breaks despite the Ancients famously not being able to interact with it.


As far as Wuk Lamat, individual boss Garleans can deal more damage than a fully-realized WoL at the same level and the Scions can keep up with us or even equal us in cutscenes so I wouldn’t think too hard about this.

[NotoriousQX]

I'm not really a fan of using Dynamis as a reason for why someone is suddenly unstoppable. I feel it will lead to very lazy writing.

I think that's a reasonable concern. FFXIV's power scaling has never really made sense though. Characters have always generated threat based on what the story needs them to. Ran'jit appears in ShB and beats the crap out of the WoL AND all of the Scions. He's just some guy from a warrior clan or something.

I don't like it, but I guess Dynamis can be used to fill in the blanks with that sort of thumb.