LOLPATCH 1.16a

[Abriael]

yeah, some people dont realize optimal leve party is 4 man not 8 still

with 4 man, you get 1250 SP per kill in dunes
you get 780 per kill in ranine
and i think it was 600 or so in cracked up


with 8 you get maybe half that or close

The problem is that with 4 you don't get as many links of the "good" leves, unless, of course, everyone has exploited the abandoning trick for a long time and goes out always with the same. Personally, I didn't get dunes in the last 6-7 cycles, starting to wonder if SE removed it from my list.

How many stars out of curiosity? because I did try 4-5 people a few times when I didn't have the time to form a full group, and I still didn't see even nearly those numbers.

1 link + guardian dunesfolk 3 stars = 740-800 per wolf/peiste 500 for bombs. do the math , with luck you can get around 8-10 pairs of wolfs.Do the math.

Never once seen more than 6 pairs of wolves. 3 already out, 3 spawned by the light points. That's pretty much the regular count.

ravine gives around 300-400 with 1 link per mob , 3 mobs = 900-1.2k per set .This one is luck but at least 10k from it easily every reset.

Even here, I get about 200 per puk.

I think your 8 people party must be hindering your sp, do you leve link all 8 ? couse 4 is max.I think thats why you dont get my numbers.

Nah, that's rather obvious, we do a leve count first, and then we link 4 max, and repeat if we have more.

And we aren't even counting the fact that guardian aspect runs out and fatigue. I'm costantly on the yellow the day after it resets, two max. and that does take a toll.

[Zkieve]

The problem is that with 4 you don't get as many links of the "good" leves, unless, of course, everyone has exploited the abandoning trick for a long time and goes out always with the same. Personally, I didn't get dunes in the last 6 weeks, starting to wonder if SE removed it from my list.

That sums it up.Is not a exploit . You loose rewards for sp.
Its the most efficient way to level up .You dont need to grind mindlessly.
All you need is some people to leve link this leves every reset for a couple of hours.
Im amazed you were unaware of this .You dont need to not have a life to get couple of classes at 50. All you need is to log on couple of hours with the same people for few weeks.

Also just ignore surplus , i never gotten less than -80sp ? or somethin like that . Not really that big deal.

[Abriael]

That sums it up.Is not a exploit . You loose rewards for sp.
Its the most efficient way to level up .You dont need to grind mindlessly.

I would definitely disagree that's not an exploit to be honest.
When failure equals better results, then it can be pretty much defined an exploit, and I wouldn't be surprised if SE patched it somehow sooner or later.
Mind you, i'd definitely use it if i ever got that damn quest, but I personally can't see it as anything else than an exploit of a flawed system.

All you need is some people to leve link this leves every reset for a couple of hours.
Im amazed you were unaware of this .You dont need to not have a life to get couple of classes at 50. All you need is to log on couple of hours with the same people for few weeks.

Reducing your fun by quite a lot in the process, as you completely cancel out the socialization aspect of an MMO. Again, not surprised that you're bored.
And you're still not counting in fatigue and consumption of Guardian Aspect.

@Thevedis: I never group with people with more than 4 level difference, obviously.

[Zkieve]

I would definitely disagree that's not an exploit to be honest.
When failure equals better results, then it can be pretty much defined an exploit, and I wouldn't be surprised if SE patched it somehow sooner or later.
Mind you, i'd definitely use it if i ever got that damn quest, but I personally can't see it as anything else than an exploit of a flawed system.



Reducing your fun by quite a lot in the process, as you completely cancel out the socialization aspect of an MMO. Again, not surprised that you're bored.
And you're still not counting in fatigue and consumption of Guardian Aspect.

@Thevedis: I never group with people with more than 4 level difference, obviously.

okay man you obviously dont know when to stop , even when we have proven you are wrong.
Pointless to speak to deft ears.
Carry on.

[Elexia]

okay man you obviously dont know when to stop , even when we have proven you are wrong.
Pointless to speak to deft ears.
Carry on.

I read a post by you on a few sites where you swore up and down it was ok to use the necropolis spawn bug to level.

[Zkieve]

I read a post by you on a few sites where you swore up and down it was ok to use the necropolis spawn bug to level.

yea until i was proven wrong.One can be wrong can you not?
Im not some child stuck up into his mentality and i must be right no matter what .

[TheVedis]

I read a post by you on a few sites where you swore up and down it was ok to use the necropolis spawn bug to level.

the spawn bug is an exploit....theres a big difference between using something thats been implemented into the system, and using something that bugs out and happens(especialy if you figure out how to purposely do it)

[Abriael]

okay man you obviously dont know when to stop , even when we have proven you are wrong.
Pointless to speak to deft ears.
Carry on.

You sure have a quite elastic idea of the verb "proven". You stated your (alleged) experience, which differs with mine.

I play MMORPGs with the intent of playing with people, you seem to play MMORPGs with the intent of leveling up.
That's quite a difference there.

I read a post by you on a few sites where you swore up and down it was ok to use the necropolis spawn bug to level.

he plays "efficently"

[Zkieve]

You sure have a quite elastic idea of the verb "proven". You stated your (alleged) experience, which differs with mine.

I play MMORPGs with the intent of playing with people, you seem to play MMORPGs with the intent of leveling up.
That's quite a difference there.



he plays "efficently"

So now since you cant come up with a better argument so go to personal attacks ?
I swear some people.You play to socialize, i already do that everyday outside, i play to have fun , take some names, and increase my own/team power.
Different brand of players. Does not mean we should attack each other like pre-scholar boys eh ?

[Abriael]

So now since you cant come up with a better argument so go to personal attacks ?

I don't see the personal attack. Actually I see quite a few personal attacks in your posts like "speaking to deaf ears" or "you obviously don't know when to stop" or similar expressions, that implies belittling someone else's experience and standpoint.

Saying that you seem to play for the sole purpose of leveling up, and not being surprised that it turns out to be boring is hardly a personal attack.