LOLPATCH 1.16a

[Abriael]

BelgianRofl couldn't have said it better himself

Too bad that he doesn't apply what he could have said.

Your posts are almost always wrong and off on a tangent however; I always tell you at which sentence I stopped reading. I just thought it was funny how Viion experienced the same thing! Also, I wish you wouldn't have skipped over our discussion on page 11, although I understand why you did.

Luckily, belgian, it's not for you to decide what is "wrong" or "right"
Very convenient to "stop reading" when you can't counter an argument. I didn't skip over anything, you simply didn't say anything that countered any of my arguments, and resorted to the usual personal attacks, so why would I add something to what I already said and hasn't been countered in any way, and go on and on with someone that doesn't provide any source of actual discussion besides "you're wrong because I say so"?

[Tebhi]

Logged in to check out the official forums for the first time in a week or so and Belgian Rofl has the most active thread... Guess I'll check back some other time.

[BelgianRofl]

Abby, your arguments are about whether or not a description of the game is subjective or not, and are avoiding the real point of the topic... The game is currently in an abysmal state. Is there enough time to fix this game to boost its popularity, to make it fun, and to bring it to the level we all want it to be - and will the media attention even give FFXIV a real thought considering all the giant upcoming games - or will that review be left to the interns?


I'll bet 100,000 gil that Abby responds about how subjective "abysmal" is.

[Abriael]

Abby, your arguments are about whether or not a description of the game is subjective or not, and are avoiding the real point of the topic...

Maybe you missed the whole lot of posts in which i brought quite a few arguments on why patching and "monumental " changes don't come at the snap of fingers
I'd go out on a limb and say that they are perfectly in topic, isn't it?

The game is currently in an abysmal state. Is there enough time to fix this game to boost its popularity, to make it fun, and to bring it to the level we all want it to be - and will the media attention even give FFXIV a real thought considering all the giant upcoming games - or will that review be left to the interns?

Considering that a console release is normally considered a completely different animal by the media (lots of media outlets didn't even review the game because they're exclusive to consoles, including most prominent japanese ones, like Famitsu or Degenki playstation), there isn't much of a doubt that when the PS3 release will hit it will be covered properly.
Actually the more time passes, the more chance there will be of an actual full fledged re-review, instead of a simple update.
This not to mention that (in the case by the PS3 release the game will have significantly improved), such an improvement is a "story" for which gaming journalists lust for, to try and fill their site with something more appreciated than "list of top 10 mustaches in gaming". Stories bring hits. That's all there's to it.

"Square Enix turns the tables and delivers a great Final Fantasy on PS3!" Sounds much better and draws many more hits than a low key update stuck in a side column.

Obviously, there will be some publications (see Kotaku, for instance) that are extremely biased against anything Square Enix (or Japanese development in general), and there's no doubt that those will do everything they can to downplay any kind of improvement.
Unfortunately that doesn't depend on the timing of the expansion or the patches. It's something SE (and many other developers that have been targeted by a certain area of the press) has to deal with by delivering quality content.

See it this way. There's a much higher chance that SE will get favorable review is the team takes the necessary time (up to a limit) in order to inject an high level of quality in this game, instead of rushing like they already did once, and crapping everything to try and get it out earlier.

Second chances in this kind of market don't exactly come every day. I'm sure you understand that burning it due to excessive hurry is not a good idea.

[Joito]

I remembered month ago most of you hated FFXIV, then when servers shutdown, same people missed the game, almost crying for servers to go up. Now that we have and updated patch same people hate the game again. Please enjoy the game.

[Kota_Foxfrey]

At least there was "some" progress and fixes but it would be nice if this could go a little faster. I mean I hope they have some really major fixes coming pretty soon. An overhaul of the party search system would be nice.

[Morphemes]

The game isn't going to get better if you don't already like it... GO back to wow or something, it has what you want... An endless supply of consumers demanding a kind of sadistic monotony fortified by cliche action storytelling & HUGE teets!. Seriously though, wouldn't you rather be the driver? What if we could both drive? What if, all you had to do was stop torturing yourself & realize that the best thing these games have to offer is up for grabs, its us, the players... Not the machine... All this rabble is PURE discontentment... This game has something you can't really get elsewhere else. It has an atmosphere.

[Verecund]

@%!$ this, I'm going back to Minecraft.

[Carpe]

@BelgianROFL

Honestly, what did you expect from this patch? Do you have no sympathy for everything the dev team and the japanese in general have been going through over the last few weeks? Give them a break please.

[Seif]

How has FFXIV evolved? Its gotten no where lol. Its still pretty much the same game as release. Should I praise them that a quest system has been implemented? NO because all MMOs have this and it was a copy/paste system so it wasn't even built from scratch just built on top of.

See things like re-hauling a bunch of classes I can understand taking a while, but just copy/pasting systems or building on top of the current framework (which btw they're doing both extremely poorly right now) should not be difficult or time consuming tasks. The fundamentals should be there, if they're not then Crystal Tools is the issue.

Why do people think building content or simple tweaking or implementing much needed systems require a lot of work? Infact not a lot of what SE are doing should be taking as long as it should, especially when other companies do just fine.

I recently compared 2 updates in similar timeframes between TERA and XIV. XIV had a seperation of 25 days while TERA 14 days and TERA has a massive amount of tweaks, fixes, changes, its not content and it has soooooo much more than this game being fixed.

This recent update was just tweaks and fixes. That is it, and it lacks.

I agree. what's sad here is that we all want the game to be good. It's probably because of the white knights that have made the designers stick to what they've got and now they're doing just minor tweaks. The fact is that everyone constantly asking people with negative opinions of XIV to leave you need them like you would not believe. People half-quitting the game are the most likely people that these patches can bring back. PS3 release is not going to bring as much players as PC edition did. Every Console/PC MMO I've played has had most players using the PC.

Btw congrats for the guy who got so stuck on the word "broken" that he/she refused to see the synonyms for it =) Oh dear.

Personally to me the only thing that has visibly changed in the game is the UI is a LOT faster than in Beta. I can't even tell what leves are new as they're all alike to me.