LOLPATCH 1.16a

[Moth]

Cry more

[BelgianRofl]

So, because I'm not going to pat S-E on the back every time they don't do something with this game, I'm a troll? What's the back-patting going to accomplish anyway? There's some stiff competition coming up. People are giving up hope [1] [2].

I understand the urgency of this situation. I've said it before, and I'll say it again... Square-Enix needs to roll out some monumental changes, and they need to do it FAST. Whether or not you think I'm a troll, doesn't change this fact.

[Abriael]

If you like I can call the game-play not working

It works, by every single definition of the verb "working".

boring, monotonous , not up to par with SE standards, not good, bad, substandard, work-like, lacking in quality, in need of serious overhaul, not memorable, uninteresting, lacking fair challenge and design, hollow, empty, lifeless and so forth.

Some of those terms are subjective, some objective. Can't confuse the two, and confuse personal opinions with objective truth.

I badly want to play XIV but it's like waiting for a game that doesn't have a clear release date at this point.

And where is the problem? The market is full of games. No one holds anyone at a gunpoint to wait in anguish without playing anything else. you're not even forced to pay a monthly fee, so you can put your account on ice as long as you want without any effort. I did it quite a few times, played other games, then I came back when I felt like I could have fun again. Worked wonders.

I'm not talking about nudging the UI boxes a few pixels to the left

Hyperbole and strawman argument. The UI has been overhauled quite radically, data has been made much more readily available, the numbers of instructions needed radically reduced. That's quite a lot more useful than "Nudging the UI boxes a few pixels" thing that didn't even happen, by the way.

A functional UI is a big asset to the enjoyment of a game.

I'm talking changing the classes to real FF jobs or battle-system speed or throwing out classes all together, deleting all of the 3 zones and re-making them with interesting terrain and game-play possibilities, taking out all anima or making it endless, taking out the repair system or making crafting so fun that every crafting class has it's own minigame and people will want to do it just because it's fun for most players, making npc quests with cutscenes and rewrite the storyline to make sense. Give us jump or make the limitation of movement benefit the game-play somehow. Do something huge!

"huge"? None of the changes listed here can be classified as "huge". They're all very minor issues. The only one that would be "huge" is redesigning the zones.
Too bad that anyone with the smallest bit of experience would know that redesigning the zones will take a LOT of time. It isn't as easy as taking a pencil and designing on paper. Yoshida himself confirmed that they're working on it, but if expects to see the results before quite a few months there's a big delusion floating in the air.

In any case, the changes you listed don't represent what the majority of the people wants. The player poll was actually quite clear. The majority of the ones participating said they want *content*
Guess what? content is incoming. it's called companies, and it may as well be quite big.

So, because I'm not going to pat S-E on the back every time they don't do something with this game, I'm a troll?

There's a vast difference than not patting SE on the back and continuously looking for excuses to write openly bashing and completely unconstructive threads over and over. It's that simple.

People are giving up hope

For everyone that "gives up hope" there are others that come back and have fun. You might not have noticed, but the servers have been quite crowded lately. It's been a while since when I had to stand in ambush ready to select the battlewarden to get into a behest before it fills up. Now it's happening.

I understand the urgency of this situation. I've said it before, and I'll say it again... Square-Enix needs to roll out some monumental changes, and they need to do it FAST. Whether or not you think I'm a troll, doesn't change this fact.

It's not a *fact* it's an opinion. The only *fact* is that in game development, and especially in MMORPG "fast" is antithetical with "quality".
Last time SE (or anyone else really) tried to pull out something as fast as possible, it didn't go down too well, remember?

So basically you want two antithetical things, You want "monumental" (which is just a catchword) changes, but you want them "fast". Here in italy we call that "wanting the bottle full and the wife drunken". Not gonna happen.

Ivar, do you think the game will be fixed in time? Do you think that at the rate we've experienced, the PS3 version will save FFXIV's reputation, the servers will max out, and the game will be the best MMO ever made?

That's the answer I'm waiting for (From SE, of course). If the answer is Yes, then I'm staying. If the answer is no, I'm leaving. Until the answer is clear, I'm going to keep my foot in the door, because I've been longing for SE's next MMO for 5 years.

They already gave you the answer. They are continuing to invest in the game despite the rocky start, in a quite unprecedented way I would add.
Companies don't pour money into products they don't have the confidence to make successful.
This, of course, without mentioning that they spelled it out quite a few times.

[Ivar]

I have a simple solution for anyone who is not satisfied with the FFXIV game so far. QUIT And don't waste your time coming back. It's just that simple. It's just silly watching you guys complain about this game. If I am correct, the only thing most of you guys have done is pay that $60 initially to buy this game. Since that, Square Enix has not charged a single dollar because they know things need to be fixed. Seems like most of you who complain just want instant satistifcation with everything. Get out of the house if you have one...once in a while. Reality is not like that. *sigh*

[BelgianRofl]

Ivar, do you think the game will be fixed in time? Do you think that at the rate we've experienced, the PS3 version will save FFXIV's reputation, the servers will max out, and the game will be the best MMO ever made?

That's the answer I'm waiting for (From SE, of course). If the answer is Yes, then I'm staying. If the answer is no, I'm leaving. Until the answer is clear, I'm going to keep my foot in the door, because I've been longing for SE's next MMO for 5 years.

[Molly_Millions]

Ivar, do you think the game will be fixed in time? Do you think that at the rate we've experienced, the PS3 version will save FFXIV's reputation, the servers will max out, and the game will be the best MMO ever made?

That's the answer I'm waiting for (From SE, of course). If the answer is Yes, then I'm staying. If the answer is no, I'm leaving. Until the answer is clear, I'm going to keep my foot in the door, because I've been longing for SE's next MMO for 5 years.

With the state of the release and all the bad press, I have my doubts that the servers will ever reach max pop.

[Ivar]

Ivar, do you think the game will be fixed in time? Do you think that at the rate we've experienced, the PS3 version will save FFXIV's reputation, the servers will max out, and the game will be the best MMO ever made?

That's the answer I'm waiting for (From SE, of course). If the answer is Yes, then I'm staying. If the answer is no, I'm leaving. Until the answer is clear, I'm going to keep my foot in the door, because I've been longing for SE's next MMO for 5 years.

I am personally not worried about the players who want to play on the PS3. They can do what most of us have done and that is invest on their computer by upgrading them so they can play this game if they really want. If not, they can wait as long as they want.

Also, its a major MMORPG. You can't just fix things left and right on a whim because a few people complained about something without knowing what the consequences will be throught out the game. I didn't play FF11 when it came out but I know a few people who did and they said that it was almost a year to year and a half on constant patches every so often. At the end they got it pretty good was a very entertaining game. Did I like everything in 11....nope but overall it was a good game.

Last not be least is that, Japan just had a major disaster. I mean...... REALLLLYYY BIG ONE. So please give them a break.

As I said before, when they start charging me montly and I don't like the game or where it's heading. I will quit. It's just that simple. I have plenty of things in life I could be doing.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

No.
Can you leave now ? '-'*

[Demo]

Good to see all the FF fanboys defending this game to death.

OP speaks the truth about 1.16 patch being a joke and people get all upset.

I guess you can't speak the truth about the status of this game without being called troll.

[Chuckles]

While I think that development has had a hiccup due to disaster events I do think that this patch could have waited. None of it was serious or critical.

I also disagree with the list of games that are coming out. They pose little threat to FFXIV. Star Wars: TOR though is a real threat. Its release is June / July so they either need to have fixes by then or look at pushing a full update and PS3 version shortly after.

Even with the addition of Grand Companies the issue of content still isn't going to be resolved. They need to focus on the content within the current mechanics instead of just adding new ones. I see more issues with EXP / combat balance and lack of story, and I doubt think Grand Companies update will resolve it. Either way its taking a ton of time to resolve the problem. It almost seems worth it to declare an official "Beta" mode again and plan a new release for the Q4.