LOLPATCH 1.16a

[BelgianRofl]

Wow Abigail, I hope for your sake that you do not aspire to be a trial lawyer.

I understand that it is a difficult task to convince a jury that this game is indeed not broken - especially when you know it yourself and when taking into consideration everything that has happened within the last 6-months. Unfortunately, the problem at hand is too large to divert the jury's attention from the game to whether or not a used description is subjective.

Also, the fans who visit this web-forum are not the jury. It's everyone else who needs convincing... It is not your job to do so. It's Square-Enix's job. And the only way they are going to be able to do so is with results.

[Dreamer]

Wow Abigail, I hope for your sake that you do not aspire to be a trial lawyer.

I understand that it is a difficult task to convince a jury that this game is indeed not broken - especially when you know it yourself and when taking into consideration everything that has happened within the last 6-months. Unfortunately, the problem at hand is too large to divert the jury's attention from the game to whether or not a used description is subjective.

Also, the fans who visit this web-forum are not the jury. It's everyone else who needs convincing... It is not your job to do so. It's Square-Enix's job. And the only way they are going to be able to do so is with results.

Feel free to follow your own advice. You do spend quite a bit of time trying to convince people here of your viewpoint on how the game needs to proceed, after all.

[BelgianRofl]

I don't need to convince those on the outside that this game is bad. They already know it. My motive is to wake the fanboys up. Bring them back into reality. Square-Enix needs some tough love so we can expedite this process of bringing this game to the level we all want it to be.

[Jennestia]

You don't need to convince anyone the game isn't broken - There are flaws that even SE admits.

However stating not having fun = game is broken is wildly inaccurate.

I agree but these people are really obsessed with semantics.
The adjective isn't even important.

If you like I can call the game-play not working, boring, monotonous , not up to par with SE standards, not good, bad, substandard, work-like, lacking in quality, in need of serious overhaul, not memorable, uninteresting, lacking fair challenge and design, hollow, empty, lifeless and so forth.

It's not a matter of semantics -- Broken means doesn't work.

[Suirieko]

Fun is relative. Here's a shocker, people actually do have fun playing this, and still continues to play.

I'm not surprised that this is a small patch. Some patches will be big, most patches will be small. Better than waiting for a major patch every few months.

[Seif]

Fun is a relative term, but the size of playerbase is not.

[Jennestia]

Fun is a relative term, but the size of playerbase is not.

Doesn't change relative terms. The PS3 version has yet to be released, which is by far the larger base in Japan, so even in a small playerbase, it still won't change terms.

[BelgianRofl]

Fun is a relative term, but the size of playerbase is not.

I disagree. The Fun-ness of a game will correlate to the size of its player base.

We cannot contribute the size of the player base factors such as the cost of entry ($40 - at least ten bucks less than standard cost of a video game), the high monthly subscription fee (because it is $0), or the lack of awareness of the developer and the company (S-E is one of the most well-known brands in the industry, having made world-class games for 20+ years). If anything, these factors only inflate the player base. If FFXIV started charging, right now, everyone in here knows that the population would reduce dramatically.

And why? Well... we all know why, so we're all going to continue arguing on a tangent, rather than discussing the point at hand. /thread.

[Jennestia]

I disagree. The Fun-ness of a game will correlate to the size of its player base.

Not when MMO players mainly want to solo and avoid group content as much as possible.

Now it's /thread.